I just got my celts. Damian was going to ship for free with my fathom when I ordered but I opted to get it via air freight rather than wait. My order number was 351 which is significantly different from my machine number 32/200 highlands edition. Hopefully we all get our fathoms. Not sure how many celts have been made. The game is fun and like an old em with modern tech. The technology with the lcd in the Playfield, built in pinstadium type lcds and hybrid acrylic Playfield are cool. As far as trusts and Australian bailout money that’s all speculation unless haggis is publicly open about their business . If I lose my deposit caveat emptor.

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My machine is a highland version and I opted against the name in the game so I could resell if desired. I can only speculate on numbers of regular vs highland editions produced thus far.

The machines is very nice and they have amazing attention to detail on the build. Tons of beautiful small features. I had to reposition the shooter rod. Otherwise it’s been great out of the crate.

Hopefully the hybrid Playfield will be live up to the advertising. Stern and JJP certainly haven’t. I used your iron technique (yelobird) and stacked washers on gnr which is now doing well. My Star Wars LE looks more dimpled than the moon after 1000 plays. I can’t comment on AP or spooky Playfields.

That would be frustrating. They are still advertising Celts for purchase.

If they had 170 more machines to build prior to fathom, when they were supposed to wrap up with Celts last summer per Damian's public announcement at time fathom revisited was announced .... someone might be frustrated. yelobirds speculation on 170 more celts machines not mine.

In my opinion as a consumer, They should build all the celts they like but should ideally build the fathoms promised prior to new celts orders.

Its their business and they should do as they see fit. I wish haggis success.

You are correct that all the manufacturers are behind on production.

Stern has 17000 machines backordered from what I've heard. 9 months backlog if you figure they roughly make 400 a week and 20k a year.

My deadpool is coming this month per my distributor and I was able to get the original price before the stern connected price increase.
Other preorders may be subject to the price increases next year from my understanding.

The only sure way to get a new pinball machine right now seems to be a stern LE at launch or on the secondary market. They make them first with a few pros for vendors to route.

how did you get this?

so did you order 2 machines, get the clan club package or the series ticket?

I might be on their naughty list.

I did make cointakers nice list

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made the nice list

Can't wait to see fathom revisited on the line in January.

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got email today saying fathom is in production

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waiting for mermaid #116

order 177

congratulations. unboxing video?

i've had some minor issues with celts that damian promised to fix a few weeks ago. the replacement parts haven't shipped. he answered when i re inquired, but radio silence after that. my playfield lcd is malfunctioning and the lockdown bar is chipping. the shooter rod was installed out of line and deformed the cabinet decal and stress fractured the shooter rod retaining back plate. fun game, the playfield is amazing, excited about my fathom mermaid edition.

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sold 2 pins to make room for celts in lineup.

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I agree it would be great to get a haggis update on fathom. the build quality on celts is impressive. There is passion in the design. the attention to detail is obvious when your lift the playfield. JJP and stern machines are mass produced and that is evident when you look closely. when we get out fathoms i'm confident we will be happy.

keep it professional. fashion and hairstyle posts about pinball manufacturing personnel (all companies) although amusing should be below the level of discussion of what we want in the forums.

care to show us your personal photo albums?

photoshopping your pictures might be harder... bully much?

we're all waiting for your fashion runway and headshots. pinside shouldn't be a place to criticize the looks and fashion decisions of other members. if you're in disagreement put your money where your mouth is...

I asked about a month ago. He said wasn't sure if he'd be there. I hope he is and we can see a fathom.

ready for tpf

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most of the vested buyers are though haggis directly. GAP sold some spots they purchased, so a few people are thought them. I don't know of any other distributors who have sold spots but flip n out took celts to pinCincinnati.

the capital call has been for lower number orders and season ticket holders. I'm number 116. my level of concern is low at this stage. if in 8 weeks we see
more capital calls and no machines, we will definitely have more room for concern and discussion.

half the posts in this thread are rehashing of previous posts.

I'm looking forward to some deliveries of fathom, although i'm certain it won't stop the naysayers from saying the company is going broke and everyone should be wary of paying in full as they might be the group to not get a machine.

best pinball beverage holder? I haven't found one i like yet.

celts is running intel nuc. i'd assume the same for fathom

the troll is gone. I will miss downvoting every one of his posts.

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I received my invoice this morning. I am build number 116. I wasn't expecting this for sometime due to the delays.

What the highest number build that someone has received.

I have some concerns wiring money given the delays and few machines seen going out beyond the series ticket holders orders in this forum.

to be more specific
Number 177
Date Apr 27, 2021

what is your build / order number?

177.

did they ask you for payment ?

Can you tell us your invoice number and if you are a season ticket holder. It would be helpful for those of us concerned about sending them money and give us an idea of where they really are in production.

so we're reasonably only to about 40 machines delivered and they are asking for money from the next 80.

yes it is an extrapolation. It would be better if there was transparency. Does anyone this that they will get their machine in 8!weeks if they were invoiced and paid today?

it was 2 years on the ford bronco and they had consumer price protection rebates. I ordered mine in 2020 and got it this spring. the dealer is trying to stiff me on the rebate and paid me 1000 out of 2600, but i will likely prevail.

I ordered a TNA 2. zero worries on getting it. Fathom is a much better machine and value.

TBL is awesome. Glad to hear dutch is doing this. I'd imagine it would be a loss to take original price in cash back rather than flip the machine NIB.

paid my balance...... 8 more weeks.

what's your machine and order number? series ticket holder?

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/147914

and this...

I ordered my fathom mermaid edition April 26th 2021. invoice 177. Machine number 116. It's been 12 weeks since paying them.
Let's start getting transparent. I'm tired of the "I just got mine" and no other information.

If you ordered through a dealer in your country you can sue them for breech of contract and have more recourse.
In my opinion, if you're going to post your new machine in this forum, you should disclose purchase date, series holder status, invoice number and machine number.

Aussie customers have better options for legal recourse against Haggis. It's more limited internationally.

The individuals who are touting receiving their machines and not disclosing their order number, date of purchase and series ticket holder status when asked are complicit in haggis deception.

I got my machine and everything is great without disclosure should not be an acceptable community standard.

I paid my deposit when asked and they as told me 8 weeks and some machines were being shipped. I had my doubts and entering 12 plus weeks now since payment, I am now very unhappy. I may sell my spot or pursue other options depending on Haggis's response.

Everything is not great with Haggis and the emperor might not have any clothing.

Of course I have contacted Haggis.

My frustration peaked with the lack of transparency when i inquired about order dates etc from individuals in this forum trumpeting receiving their machine.

I won't disclose the individual I communicated with, but one person refused to disclose this information to avoid scrutiny for favoritism or early delivery outside their order position.

Haggis can be transparent or choose to deceive us moving forward.
The people in this forum can choose to support the pinball consumer community or act as a shill for manufacturers.

So it's ok for Damien to lie about their timeline and request money? That seems much more entitled than asking for Haggis to deliver on their promises. I'm happy people are getting their machines but stand by my statement that people in this forum should be transparent and support their fellow consumers. The poster I down voted edited their machine serial number out. Why?

A lot of flippers do this on NIB LE to hide it from their distributors.

then don't get upset if i downvote you delivery.

From what i've been an able to gather, they've taken deposits on machines 70 order numbers behind mine. That's $450k.

Shouldn't we be talking about that?

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/christopher-columbus-mistook-manatees-for-mermaids-13110688

have you waited 2 years and invested money with no guarantee of receiving a machine?
what do you expect to pay in the 11th hour with zero skin in the game?

I've never considered pinball as an investment. Don't try to put words into my mouth. If you like to talk about investments pm me and we can chat. I wouldn't own a single machine if i was not financially secure.

With no risk on your part in ordering a machine from a boutique company', please clarify what you think is fair to pay ?

I don’t really care or give a $%#^ at this point. I would like to see your collection in boerne. I have a house in Mico.

invoice Number 177
fathom mermaid number 116
deposit Date 4/27/21
final payment request 9/1/22
final payment 9/14/23 - AMEX per my request
completion date 2/16/23
shipping payment 2/21/23 - request to delay due to vacation
shipping date 2/24/23
shipping fees 1900$ USA AUS
arrival - 3/8/23

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what's the status of your fathom order flynnibus? i'm fairly confident you don't have one.

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