Fathom (Classic Edition)
Haggis, 2021
Fathom (Mermaid Edition)
Haggis, 2021Quoted from screaminr:https://www.podbean.com/ea/pb-vatn6-123b865
This is one of the hardest podcasts I've had to listen to , it's like hearing fingernails down a chalkboard .
But the jjp engineer explains the difficulties of getting supplies and how hard it is to put a PIN together these days .
Holy shit, same here. Tried listening because there was some good info from the JJP guest. But those two hosts are awfully hard to listen to.
Quoted from swinks:looks very nice though I would of been a bit more anal and cable tied the cables a bit more and made a few cables a little longer so they could be grouped
Electrically, you don't want to zip tie certain different types of cables together. This can cause interference in certain circumstances.
Aaron
FAST Pinball
Quoted from Damonator:Capcom did it 30 years ago. Not sure how the Haggis system works, but the Capcom playfield when raised sits vertical in the middle of the cabinet allowing great access to the top and bottom.
I know how the Haggis system works today.
After trying to slide the playfield of my Celts forward yesterday and having it drop into the cab.
Quoted from punkin:I know how the Haggis system works today.
After trying to slide the playfield of my Celts forward yesterday and having it drop into the cab.
Oofff… Didn’t read the instructions?
Quoted from fastpinball:Electrically, you don't want to zip tie certain different types of cables together. This can cause interference in certain circumstances.
Aaron
FAST Pinball
yeah I get that, but those cables should then be cabled separately through the playfield so others can't move on to those.
I use to wire up light aircraft electricals and then wire up high end CNC router and laser machines so understand electrical interference, shielding, sensor interference etc.
- the top circle - personally would make the yellow wire over the pcb's a little longer and group with the others to the right
- the middle circle - make the yellows and oranges a little longer and have a nice loop instead of the criss cross
- the bottom circle -it's already grouped at the back of the playfield so 1 - 2 more cable ties to group down to the plexi changes the look
it's not alot but a few minor changes the look to a more professional look
fastpinball looks like the insert led are serial daisy chained? Been a few discussions(arguments lol) on here about how it would never work correctly in a pinball due to interference. Is this game proof it does work?
Quoted from punkin:I know how the Haggis system works today.
After trying to slide the playfield of my Celts forward yesterday and having it drop into the cab.
How is that even possible? No casual mistake should result in a disaster like that unless there is something poorly designed? Hopefully that can't happen with Fathom...
Quoted from John_I:How is that even possible? No casual mistake should result in a disaster like that unless there is something poorly designed? Hopefully that can't happen with Fathom...
I don’t see how it could happen on Celts unless there was a design change from his to mine.
Quoted from punkin:I know how the Haggis system works today.
After trying to slide the playfield of my Celts forward yesterday and having it drop into the cab.
I noticed Fathom has no slide rails. how does it work?
I wonder if these could be attached;
C85B6638-5F1A-4A09-8282-7619AEE91CAF (resized).pngQuoted from russdx:fastpinball looks like the insert led are serial daisy chained? Been a few discussions(arguments lol) on here about how it would never work correctly in a pinball due to interference. Is this game proof it does work?
It’s not that it can’t work - it’s that it’s vulnerable to corruption and hence error prone. Lots of games use them… and they all have their own little quirks as they try to work around the realities of wild world. Anything they say themselves will be “of course it works!” - because they all see it working… until it doesn’t 
Only the real open world will prove how reliable their system is. We just have to wait and see…
I want to see the RGB score displays putting on a show
Even cool tricks like scrolling animations they did in late SS Ballys?
Quoted from flynnibus:It’s not that it can’t work - it’s that it’s vulnerable to corruption and hence error prone. Lots of games use them… and they all have their own little quirks as they try to work around the realities of wild world. Anything they say themselves will be “of course it works!” - because they all see it working… until it doesn’t
Only the real open world will prove how reliable their system is. We just have to wait and see…
Fathom made it through 3 days of non-stop play with zero RGB led lighting issues.
The only thing I noticed was the rubber near the center drop target bank getting a little frayed and some debris on the playfield from it. Cleaned it up nice and easy.
We are breaking down now that the show is over and will be sleeping for a couple days!
Aaron
FAST Pinball
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Here is a crummy over the shoulder vid I recorded day before show opening. Was going to do more but got invited to play.
Looked and sounded great irl, but better yet, the flippers felt really good. No jjp mush or delay. But not so snappy to ruin the "classic" feel.
Mike (#188)
Quoted from RebelGuitars:I don’t see how it could happen on Celts unless there was a design change from his to mine.
It's Fathomable.
I want one! Love the videos thanks for posting.
Congrats Haggis and congrats to the FAST team as well.
Can't say I love the background music on the new version but, hey, I really like the background sound on the original so maybe I'm not the best judge.
Quoted from solarvalue:Can't say I love the background music on the new version but, hey, I really like the background sound on the original so maybe I'm not the best judge.
I enjoy the music. I find myself humming the tune.
Aaron
FAST Pinball
Quoted from bitternerd:Here is a crummy over the shoulder vid I recorded day before show opening. Was going to do more but got invited to play.
Looked and sounded great irl, but better yet, the flippers felt really good. No jjp mush or delay. But not so snappy to ruin the "classic" feel.
Mike (#188)
Thanks for posting. Great video of actual gameplay. Hopefully a few more share similar videos.
Quoted from bitternerd:Here is a crummy over the shoulder vid I recorded day before show opening. Was going to do more but got invited to play.
Looked and sounded great irl, but better yet, the flippers felt really good. No jjp mush or delay. But not so snappy to ruin the "classic" feel.
Mike (#188)
You're video is so cool that the Vid made an appearance!
Nice
Quoted from wesh:Something special landed here in Atlanta!
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Heck yeah!!!
Man I can’t wait to get the email that mine is ready to be shipped!
Quoted from wesh:Something special landed here in Atlanta!
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More pics or it didn't happen. 
Congratulations!
Quoted from wesh:Something special landed here in Atlanta!
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That looks like one of those empty cabinets that people made fun of in the #No Words video. How the heck did they build and ship that without employees as we were told?
Looks like the #No Words video was talking loud and clear to those of us paying attention.
Congratulations, Wesh
Quoted from Mr68:That looks like one of those empty cabinets that people made fun of in the #No Words video. How the heck did they build and ship that without employees as we were told?
Looks like the #No Words video was talking loud and clear to those of us paying attention.
Congratulations, Wesh
Maybe all these machines ready to ship were hiding in the dunny that Bill the transport guy wasn't allowed to go to.....(and i have it first hand that it wasn't even Bill anyway - but trolls never let facts get in the way of a good rumour)
Quoted from wesh:That empty cabinet sure is pretty!!
Damn that game looks great ! Congratulations !
LTG : )
Quoted from rai:Dumb question, does this game save high score initials?
I believe it does!
Quoted from LTG:Damn that game looks great ! Congratulations !
LTG : )
Thanks!
Quoted from rai:How does it play? Any difference within the new PF materials?
Best I can tell it plays like fathom, I have only had time to play about 3 games.
Quoted from punkin:The million dollar question.
Can't tell the playfield is different materials on Celts, not a mug like me anyway.
I have no clue what the playfield on Celts is. Looking to get one now though if anyone is selling!
Quoted from ckcsm:I bought that machine from a guy named Marlin who reportedly ran the show's prior to Rich.
It was shopped and plays great and I'm very happy to get a Fathom after looking for one for quite a while.
I remember talking to you right after you purchased it. Nice buy! What a small world, I only live a couple miles down the road from you!
Quoted from wesh:That empty cabinet sure is pretty!!
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So any coin mechs? Or at least the wiring for them, so that I could just drop a couple in quickly?
My Fathom will be going on location right away, at least ideally.
Quoted from DakotaMike:So any coin mechs?
Picture in post 4632 you can see the tops of the coin mech holders. So I suspect they are in there and the game can be set for coin play of free play for home use.
LTG : )
Its amazing to see these mechanical works of art, reach their destinations.
Almost if the forgotten virtue of patience was truly rewarded.
Who woulda thunk it??
Quoted from punkin:New machines in aus come with slots, brackets, wiring and no mechs. You can order mechs with it i'll bet if you give them an email.
Good to know. My Dad has worked for a regional op for like 20 years. So we've got plenty of spare coin mechs around.
Quoted from wesh:That empty cabinet sure is pretty!!
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Looks amazing! How tall is the backbox from the floor?
Quoted from wesh:That empty cabinet sure is pretty!!
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Wow, that's a looker. Enjoy.
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