not really into wishing people ill will but hoping that dOn takes a bath on those games .
would be a great example to those who do this in the our little hobby !

Consider that dOn not only deleted his Pinside account, he also deleted his Facebook and quickly reopened it under an alternate name. (He abbreviated his last name)

And why? Because Haggis proved him wrong after his shooting his mouth off and he's embarrassed. (At least that's my recollection of why he quit)
So if you think about it, he's already paying a price for his actions.

I just dont understand why he continues to publicly hate on Haggis.

I'm guessing he's just one of those grudging types that don't like to be shown out to be full of shit so it becomes almost a 'campaign', all the time conveniently forgetting he brought it on himself

Has anyone else (paid Fathom buyers) had problems with communications with Haggis? I have sent 3 emails over the past several weeks regarding a production timeline and my payment and have had zero response. For the record, I was in on a Fathom mermaid very early and they have my full payment.

**UPDATE 09/02/22- Corresponded with Damian, all is good! **

If I tracked correctly it was 22-23 weeks to receive from time of full payment? I'm about to complete week 11 since full payment

That’s odd. Normally he replies in a couple of days max. Likely it’s going to junk. Do you have an alternate email to send from? If no luck, pm me and I can send it/forward it on your behalf.

Basically the same here - multiple emails via known addresses and also the form on the website and zero response. I gave up a couple of months ago and just waiting for them to get a hold of me when the time comes.

As a business owner i check my spam every day.

Just saying.

What was your original order number? My order number is 336 for machine number 242 (as requested).

177.

did they ask you for payment ?

I got my order invoice (order #200) around the same time last night here. I had feeling it would turn up in a Murphy's Law kind of way, just when I've been on holiday a month and a half ago and burned through funds lol. They're still quoting the same 8 week production scenario, so lets see if it starts to hold true or not given I don't think anyone has gotten one in anywhere near that time frame so far. I'm going to expect mine next Feb lol.

Haggis getting full payment far in advance of people receiving their machine has been going on since they first took payment BUT I don't think you need to worry. Also, you sent three emails but 2 of them were within the past 3 days. Say the first one went to Spam or whatever, the other two being sent this week I think you need to give them a little more time.

BTW -I don't have a machine on order.

No, I have not heard anything after making the initial downpayment.

Got my Fathom in today :} Haven't opened it yet but the box is not damaged so looking good.

Updating- I got an update email, so all is well. I have full confidence in Damian and Haggis and can't wait for my Fathom!

You probably will not until your build is ready for production. Then it will be payment in full and you will get into the production schedule. At that time the pin will be made. Last will be your shipping. That is tricky you will have to choose between air or sea. Air is fast but costly. Sea will take time as they have to fill a shipping container with other builds and have them set sail to Plantary pinball and ground ship to you from them. That could be a long time.
By no means is this a easy operation in todays world unfortunately.

To be honest… that was mainly gwj… who beyond being a bit mental has a new trolling topic so I’m sure tgst will keep him fully engaged for yhe next year as he enjoys his drama-celebrity thread.

How #200 been called, cannot wait ( #216 here ), assuming they are calling in order of affectation.

They are getting built by the order date. Not the game number.
I’m game number 12 but was order number 5 and just got mine.

He was one certainly, but not alone or the worst.
Here's a thread dedicated to Haggis = Heighway. Along with a Poll.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/is-haggis-the-next-heighway-pinball-poll-inside

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Do I get partial credit as someone who trolls a lot of the poorly ran companies for not trolling Haggis?

Haggis won't make it at this rate. Period. Last game ? Probably.

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Kelley, i love you. But just stop. You know how when you're in a restaurant, and there's that one customer that keeps making a scene, harassing the service staff, yelling about how the food is taking too long, and demanding that it be removed from the check or they're going to get them shut down? Of course you do, we've all seen that and cringed. Not just for having to witness it, but also when thinking about what "special ingredients" the kitchen crew is going to add to that person's Western Omelette. Well, that's you right now. Sorry, bud. Just friendly advice.

sorry, I don't see those

I do think many of the original concerns still linger. Looking forward to seeing a game show up local, but the current estimate isn't until into the new year.

Some of us were just concerned in the past when they went deep & silent about the Fathom build. Anything can happen in the future with any business. I stated when they started finally getting games out good for them. Not a buyer or on the insider club of Haggis Pinball. Not around here much because there is no need. But blame me for everything wrong in the world. I will raise a few cans of bud tonight.

John, you also came back to this thread and apologized. See quote below. No one else has done anything like that and I say bravo to you.

Now please stop playing a martyr on Pinside. No one is blaming you for the worlds problems and some of us are encouraging you.

Sounds like Martin to me, The mermaid could be Shazza ;0

Shazza in some Bogan action.

I think Martin addressed this on the Final Round podcast. Someone else thought it sounded like him too. It is, however, not Martin.

Ah ok, thanks

It sounds so similar to Martin that he may as well have done the call outs.
My wife who can be very picky with what games she plays said " I really like it but the Aussie call outs just seem weird".

They should add a pick your call out accent. Kinda like waze, when they do an update. Pick from aussie, american, etc. Or upload your own. That would be a riot

If someone has a problem with the Australian accent, just tell them they're mistaken and its New Zealand.

Hopefully it's not as bad as Led zepplin.

I feel every pin Haggis makes is a very special pin to them and the new owner. I do not like waiting but would much rather wait and receive a gem.
The product is stellar and It seems like the owners so far are very happy. Excited to receive my Fathom.

Wonder how many, if any, operators took up the classic offer?

It's still there i guess when the finish making this run. Seems a good thing to remember to me.

Panic babies..lol. That’s a good one.

Where’s the photos?
Where’s the photos?
Where’s the photos?
Where’s the photos?

Remember?

So does anybody know for sure if it’s a Damian doing the call outs? I thought I heard he did the call outs somewhere. Or maybe from listening to a podcast he did , it sure sounds like him.

Its not. Its a paid actor that sounds really close to Martin.

Actually that's what I want to know. Obviously the game is being produced and Haggis is real, but I want to see the playfield UP CLOSE. This game has a new playfield build process unlike any other current manufacturer and there still is not a remotely decent set of detailed, close-up pictures with the glass off that I am aware of. On the other hand we have a million pictures of the bottom of the playfield, inside of the cabinet and the cabinet itself. Oh well. If I am wrong, please provide a link.

Mine gets here on Wednesday. I will be happy to take some close up pictures once I have it set up.

Here you go.

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Very nice! Thx for that!

The painted lens look is far more original looking then what we saw at reveal. Excellent.

Honestly, pictures don’t capture how beautiful it is in person.

Holy hell that’s a pretty playfield. I’ve been patient about being at the end of the ME run, and planning slow boat delivery, but this makes it just a little harder to keep filed under “Someday”.

What does the A-B-C special when lit mean? Is the special points or bonus?

Thanks!!

On a whole it looks shiny and nice. The alignment problems are much less than the prototypes. Even still the rollover stars, switches and drop targets are a little off center - some worse than others. I've been in the minority here all along, but I still just don't like how overly thick the plastic sheet is that covers the whole playfield. It doesn't look right at the places where there are holes and the amount of light bleed around the inserts is hard to ignore in the videos. Flame suit on, but I would much rather have a well made wood playfield with clearcoat - dimples and all. The game looks like it plays great, which in the end (along with reliability) is what counts most. I'm still looking forward to getting my game and having a clean new Fathom, I just would have executed a couple of major facets of the build a lot differently.

It only comes in one version, so i don't see the point of having a preference. I would rather my Sterns were Diamond Coat, but they are not.

I called it correctly that you wanted close ups to complain about alignment anyway, but that's hardly clairvoyant.

The original is also off centre. Plus I think the angle of the Boof-Ed photos amplify it.
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