James Bond 007 (60th LE)
Stern, 2023Quoted from TreyBo69:I can hold out hope that they like the design enough to retheme it to some other games like Whoa Nellie and the Spider-Man Home variants
Course it may be hard depending on just how integrated this game is with the theme... quick what's another property Odd Job's hat would work in? Charlie Chaplin? Clockwork Orange?
Doesn't have to be a hat, could be a jeep in jurassic park.
Quoted from gdonovan:Doesn't have to be a hat, could be a jeep in jurassic park.
It was sarcasm
Although sometimes I do think about what Stern will eventually retheme the dino head on the Jack Danger JP game... (Godzilla is the easy answer. Bonus: the jump ramp doubles as a broken bridge)
The "only 500 freakout" seems a little overboard to me.
500 isn't THAT rare. You'll be able to play one. They'll show up at shows and select pinball palace locations, just like Lebowski and other "rare" games before it.
Even Supreme showed up here and there and they made like 20 of them!
Quoted from CrazyLevi:The "only 500 freakout" seems a little overboard to me.
500 isn't THAT rare. You'll be able to play one. They'll show up at shows and select pinball palace locations, just like Lebowski and other "rare" games before it.
Even Supreme showed up here and there and they made like 20 of them!
Agreed. Only 192 Big Bang Bars and most everyone has played one by now.
I shake my head when I see, 1000 Limited Editions!!
Quoted from TreyBo69:Though maybe they can do some over the top lights? I think Gomez mentioned the backglass would have the traditional lightboxes for things like "game over"off
In the leaked pic it's shows "over the top" lights for "10,000", "20,000", "30,000", "40,000". It also shows old school looking backlit effects for tilt, game over, balls to play and which player is up.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:The "only 500 freakout" seems a little overboard to me.
500 isn't THAT rare. You'll be able to play one. They'll show up at shows and select pinball palace locations, just like Lebowski and other "rare" games before it.
Even Supreme showed up here and there and they made like 20 of them!
Your not be able to buy one! 500 or 1000 le’s spread over the world will make it rare. It’s limited so dont understand why you bringing lebowski up?
Quoted from Munsters:Your not be able to buy one! 500 or 1000 le’s spread over the world will make it rare. It’s limited so dont understand why you bringing lebowski up?
People keep saying "they are only making 500 I'll never even be able to play this Elwin classic!"
I'm just pointing out that's bullshit. As someone else pointed out, there are under 200 BBBs on the planet and we've all played it.
I'm not able to buy one? Who gives a shit. I'll sleep like a baby at night without owning the mega-rare pins.
Quoted from docquest:In the leaked pic it's shows "over the top" lights for "10,000", "20,000", "30,000", "40,000". It also shows old school looking backlit effects for tilt, game over, balls to play and which player is up.
Oh yeah, I see it now
I wonder if in the final version it's going into a Beatles cabinet, but instead of the typical LCD screen it will be a glass panel with the score reels and other traditional backglass inserts
Quoted from CrazyLevi:People keep saying "they are only making 500 I'll never even be able to play this Elwin classic!"
I'm just pointing out that's bullshit. As someone else pointed out, there are under 200 BBBs on the planet and we've all played it.
I'm not able to buy one? Who gives a shit. I'll sleep like a baby at night without owning the mega-rare pins.
Speak for yourself, I've never seen a BBB. But I have played plenty of other rare games like Joust, Dragon Fist, and Voltan Escapes Cosmic Doom...
I know I'll see this SLE. But not as much as I would want to. Sad panda
Quoted from CrazyLevi:People keep saying "they are only making 500 I'll never even be able to play this Elwin classic!"
I'm just pointing out that's bullshit. As someone else pointed out, there are under 200 BBBs on the planet and we've all played it.
I'm not able to buy one? Who gives a shit. I'll sleep like a baby at night without owning the mega-rare pins.
People dont say that, prem’s are the same and available to buy or play on location.
In your last sentence you already indicate that it is rare 
Will trade my Star Wars limited edition R2D2 topper for an SLE straight across. No haggling, I know what I have.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:People keep saying "they are only making 500 I'll never even be able to play this Elwin classic!"
I'm just pointing out that's bullshit. As someone else pointed out, there are under 200 BBBs on the planet and we've all played it.
I'm not able to buy one? Who gives a shit. I'll sleep like a baby at night without owning the mega-rare pins.
There are a few hundred titles I have never played and it won't budge the needle a jot if I never play 007 SLE.
There will be dozens I do play and enjoy myself.
Quoted from TreyBo69:Speak for yourself, I've never seen a BBB. But I have played plenty of other rare games like Joust, Dragon Fist, and Voltan Escapes Cosmic Doom...
I know I'll see this SLE. But not as much as I would want to. Sad panda
I had a guy round to pick up stuff I sold.
I invited him into my games room and said if you want to play either of those 2 feel free.
Wasn’t bothered by them, and said, I’ve never heard of Big Bang Bar, or Big Lebowski - some people bothered, some not.. old is old
This is going to be a very expensive game. Way north of $25k I would say.
I hope Elwin negotiated a good deal. If he gets 5% of every game sold at 25k, he'll net $625k, in probably less than a minute when it goes live.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:People keep saying "they are only making 500 I'll never even be able to play this Elwin classic!"
I'm just pointing out that's bullshit. As someone else pointed out, there are under 200 BBBs on the planet and we've all played it.
I'm not able to buy one? Who gives a shit. I'll sleep like a baby at night without owning the mega-rare pins.
400 Elvira LEs
200 Elvira 40th
80 Elvira SLEs I think
Next stop?
Pros $10k
Premiums $13k
3,000 LEs at $18k
1,000 SLEs at $40k
Quoted from SLAMT1LT:This is going to be a very expensive game. Way north of $25k I would say.
I hope Elwin negotiated a good deal. If he gets 5% of every game sold at 25k, he'll net $625k, in probably less than a minute when it goes live.
Wow, people really think a lot of pinball designer salaries and royalties these days
Quoted from TreyBo69:Wow, people really think a lot of pinball designer salaries and royalties these days
Elwin is the Golden Goose
He deserves probably more than he’s getting right now
You should design something TreyBo, I like your creativity. 
Quoted from iceman44:He deserves probably more than he’s getting right now
Isn't the general understanding that everyone at Stern is working below their market value because they want to be in pinball?
Quoted from Munsters:People dont say that, prem’s are the same and available to buy or play on location.
In your last sentence you already indicate that it is rare
I think you’re confusing threads, there will not be premiums of this. It’s just 500 with no lower models. That said, 500 is still a lot more than other titles (primus) that I’ve played on location. If the price is too high it may be very rare in public but even the distributors don’t know the price yet beyond speculation
Quoted from frolic:Isn't the general understanding that everyone at Stern is working below their market value because they want to be in pinball?
who knows, but if they want to walk - where are they going with higher pay?
Guess you can go to JJP and design 1 machine every 3 years
Quoted from mstang01:I think you’re confusing threads, there will not be premiums of this. It’s just 500 with no lower models. That said, 500 is still a lot more than other titles (primus) that I’ve played on location. If the price is too high it may be very rare in public but even the distributors don’t know the price yet beyond speculation
Yes, it was more in general about rarity le/sle ‘s… No lower models will make the sle very rare…
Quoted from iceman44:Elwin is the Golden Goose
He deserves probably more than he’s getting right now
You should design something TreyBo, I like your creativity.
I probably get paid more designing much simpler things. Also have you met pinball fans? I deal with less difficult people as a government-official/human-complaint-box.
Quoted from frolic:Isn't the general understanding that everyone at Stern is working below their market value because they want to be in pinball?
Not a lot of pinball options are there?
But the Golden Goose Elwin brings in a lot dough for them.
He’s the only chance they have at selling 500 SLE games. Gomez is no dummy
I hope he’s using his leverage. If he simply walked out the door that’s a ton of $$$ walking out of Stern
Quoted from iceman44:Not a lot of pinball options are there?
But the Golden Goose Elwin brings in a lot dough for them.
He’s the only chance they have at selling 500 SLE games. Gomez is no dummy
I hope he’s using his leverage. If he simply walked out the door that’s a ton of $$$ walking out of Stern
yeah, but does Keith wanna walk out that door?
A few Stern employees seem like they took massive paycuts to come work for Stern. Software guys who could make a killing elsewhere (maybe some already did and don't mind the low pay now because they enjoy their work). Idk what Elwin used to do...
The video game industry is pretty well known for exploiting people who love video games and want to work in that industry. Keeps their wages far below comparable engineers and artists.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:People keep saying "they are only making 500 I'll never even be able to play this Elwin classic!"
I'm just pointing out that's bullshit. As someone else pointed out, there are under 200 BBBs on the planet and we've all played it.
I'm not able to buy one? Who gives a shit. I'll sleep like a baby at night without owning the mega-rare pins.
Well first of all, I think most of us mean on location. I've played every other Stern release on location or could if I wanted to -- I'm just doubtful this shows up on location. Hopefully it's bullshit and I'll hit the bowling alley someday and play it.
As far as shows, I plead ignorance. Do people bring EHOH mega edition to shows on free play? That seems like a good comparison in price and rarity. I don't follow shows enough to know if this actually happens (and maybe with the pandemic weirdness we don't know yet). I'm not sure I'd want to brink my 25K pin to shows on free play, but I admit that people that actually buy these things might have a different mindset and what to show it off.
Quoted from iloveplywood:I'm just doubtful this shows up on location.
If I get my grubby little paws on one. That is where it would be.
LTG : )
See Homepin for a clusterfuck
Quoted from CrazyLevi:People keep saying that and I don't understand why.
A "clusterfuck" connotates some kind of failure or disaster.
FOMO is at an all time high, the LEs are sold out...I don't know man. Seems like the launch is going fine to me.
If "clusterfuck" means driving Pinsiders crazy with FOMO, hype, fear, anger, and excitement (which happens EVERY time a game is revealed), I guess you are right, but that's not really my definition of clusterfuck.
It's a cluster because the reveal was delayed a week and some photos/renders leaked? Big deal. Pretty much par for the course. In a few weeks, nobody will remember any of this shit.
The hype/fomo/"clusterfuck".....it's all completely self-manufactured here at Pinside, by Pinsiders, as is ALWAYS the case.
Quoted from TreyBo69:yeah, but does Keith wanna walk out that door?
A few Stern employees seem like they took massive paycuts to come work for Stern. Software guys who could make a killing elsewhere (maybe some already did and don't mind the low pay now because they enjoy their work). Idk what Elwin used to do...
The video game industry is pretty well known for exploiting people who love video games and want to work in that industry. Keeps their wages far below comparable engineers and artists.
I’d make them think I was walking out the door if the compensation wasn’t fair.
Steph Curry gets paid a lot more than the stiff on the end of the bench (and bench stiff is overpaid)
With the huge price increases Elwin and team should get a bigger piece of that.
They should have a profit sharing plan in place to incentivize all the workers and highly comp guys get a big tax deduction
I'm just glad I know at least one person getting a 60th so I can play it. I love the single level, classic style playfield in the Beatles and hopefully Elwin added his own magic to this great theme. I've heard it's fun as hell to play, but it simply is too rich for my budget even if it does hold its value. I just wish they had a trim level suited to the normal premium/LE buyer like me!
Quoted from iceman44:I’d make them think I was walking out the door if the compensation wasn’t fair.
Steph Curry gets paid a lot more than the stiff on the end of the bench (and bench stiff is overpaid)
With the huge price increases Elwin and team should get a bigger piece of that.
They should have a profit sharing plan in place to incentivize all the workers and highly comp guys get a big tax deduction
Maybe they'll give him a piece of the 60th anniversary pin. He's a huge reason why anyone would consider it. I'd be fine if Elwin made a ton of money on it.
I'm more pessimistic and would guess the bonus to Keith, and his team, would be you get to buy the game at cost and then they could flip it on their own time.
Quoted from TreyBo69:I'm more pessimistic and would guess the bonus to Keith, and his team, would be you get to buy the game at cost and then they could flip it on their own time.
Man that would be rough. Gotta know your value.
You can’t just pick up any Elwin off the streets. His coding team is great too. I’m sure Stern saw the sales difference between him and Ritchie, especially recently.
Quoted from TreyBo69:the 60th-anniversary edition. 25 films I think it's limited to 500 units l
Quoted from LouMatt:4 optical spinners......10 drops....
Quoted from TreyBo69:4 spinners going at once.
Quoted from BMore-Pinball:$18k+ le is $13k
Quoted from TreyBo69:Spike 2 games.
Quoted from Psw757:all 25 movies.
Quoted from TreyBo69:007 60th
Quoted from o07eleven:500 unique playfield 500 people that will
Quoted from mstang01:Primus only made 100
Quoted from CrazyLevi:100 percent PBR.
Quoted from KISS73:60th LE 20 thousand dollars.
Quoted from Psw757:go to the 13:00 minutes all 25 poster movie arts
Quoted from TreyBo69:4 spinners? I can think of a few with 3, but not 4.
Quoted from iceman44:For $25k?
500 buyers
The topper is worth $10k alone
Quoted from madscientist101:60th 007
Quoted from PinStalker:Kaneda wins again!! = -2 NEGATIVE 2
Quoted from WilhuffTarkin:5K topper for sure.
Quoted from Kkoss24:double the norm.
Quoted from TheBeefSupreme:really is only 500 and crazy
Quoted from pch3727:$20k+?
Quoted from CrazyLevi:The "only 500 freakout"
500 isn't THAT rare. Supreme showed up here and there and they made like 20 of them!
Quoted from SLAMT1LT:Way north of $25k 5% of every game sold at 25k, he'll net $625k,
Quoted from iceman44:400 Elvira LEs
200 Elvira 40th
80 Elvira SLEs I think
Next stop?
Pros $10k
Premiums $13k
3,000 LEs at $18k
1,000 SLEs at $40k
b9e6a35f14be4926bbdda82aa3a93eff.gifQuoted from LTG:If I get my grubby little paws on one. That is where it would be.
LTG : )
Then, Hopkins is where I'll be--dumping money into it to play! 
Quoted from jazc4:I can't afford one, but I'm still curious to see the playfield. I'm guessing these 500 are somewhat targeted at wealthy ultra James Bond fans that aren't necessarily pinball enthusiasts.
They know what they are doing they attached Elwin's name to this for a reason. I hope he gets mega cash from this he deserves it from the last four games for sure.
Quoted from pch3727:I agree on the appeal of Bond, but at $20k+? How many pins have sold for over $20k?
At least Lebowski had a bowling alley
Quoted from cait001:At least Lebowski had a bowling alley
It’s a kick ass bowling alley!
Quoted from TreyBo69:Speak for yourself, I've never seen a BBB. But I have played plenty of other rare games like Joust, Dragon Fist, and Voltan Escapes Cosmic Doom...
I know I'll see this SLE. But not as much as I would want to. Sad panda
lol that is funny you mentioned those three. We have them all on the floor at Game Galaxy in Smyrna. LOL
Quoted from DreamTR:lol that is funny you mentioned those three. We have them all on the floor at Game Galaxy in Smyrna. LOL
That's where I played them! I imagine you're considering one of these? Wish I didn't move away recently because youre the type of op who'd put something like this out for all to enjoy.
Quoted from pch3727:Those are listed at high prices but I don't think they are actually getting the ask. I realize there are very deep pockets in the hobby, but I don't see 500 of these moving at $20k+. Could be wrong though. Guess we'll find out.
I don’t see 500 at $20k moving either and if EHOH 40th is any indication, distributors will close them out well below that. I know of a couple of NIB EHOH 40th’s having been sold well under $20K, quietly by distributors.
Quoted from Pinsrgrt:I don’t see 500 at $20k moving either and if EHOH 40th is any indication, distributors will close them out well below that. I know of a couple of NIB EHOH 40th’s having been sold well under $20K, quietly by distributors.
Have to agree with this.
500. I think they will try and get $25k for these.
If they do it’s not gonna work out. Too many people saw the Beatles fiasco and now Elvira 40th. Only 200 of those games
Quoted from iceman44:Have to agree with this.
500. I think they will try and get $25k for these.
If they do it’s not gonna work out. Too many people saw the Beatles fiasco and now Elvira 40th. Only 200 of those games
People keep comparing these games but they both had cheaper available models. I’m not saying this will work for them but it’s nothing like Elvira or Beatles.
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