New games used to cost less than used games not too long ago. I think it’s just the wrong direction from Stern and I love Stern. It makes me cringe a bit to think about the customer base they’re targeting with these type of releases.

It was.

Wanted: 007 SLE playfield. Just just the wood. I’ll just build my own retro bond with blackjack and hookers. And you know what, forget the blackjack.

I don’t think there is any special gimmick to the topper pretty sure Gomez mentioned this topper being available to purchase and isn’t expensive like Mando.

How dare you. Get back to coding Rick and Morty.

It will be interesting to see what Stern considers "inexpensive"...

Also, consider what Stern things is inexpensive for that they consider "pinball suckers"

I know he mentioned a lot of rgb’s in a topper and I’m not sure if he was talking about this one or one for the cornerstone (I’m hoping it’s not the same topper or I’ll need to keep them in separate rooms )

Yes it does. Centaur is the first game that came to mind when I saw this new layout. Even with the ball guide behind the drops on the left side.

According to the flyer, the topper is included.

How so?

Both have cliched screens on the playfields, tired mechs like the Oddjob hat (AIQ would like to have a word) and a carnival wheel (Whirlwind would also like to have a word), and are evident by the art package and lack of interesting mechs that the licensors were really sucky to deal with.

But sure, you all keep throwing money at these themes and licenses.

He mentioned they were the same and the topper would change colors to match the mode colors. So nothing crazy.

Thanks for the hysterical laughter today. You've made my day.

Shit, that's $3,000 in Stern philosophy for market value..

I’m assuming the main difference is that they are producing 10x as many TS4’s (along with all the other differences between the two). Don’t get me wrong, I’d kinda like a TS4 at some point

Just wanted you to chime in.

Bubble burst or prices keep going up?

It's over. next.

Stern's features video:

FEATURES?
-optical spinners
- drop targets
-video screen
- spinning hat

Does this sound creative? ZERO engineering or toys, all (OLD) pinball parts off the shelf. $20K!! WOW.

They didn't say they were innovative features...

Nothing I've seen in the first three days of the year has me thinking there will be a bubble burst in 2023.

But I'm gonna need a full "Will the bubble burst in 2023?!???" thread to make up my mind for sure!

Hi Pinsiders

I actually for fun re-edited the features trailer... to be more "feature" complete. Enjoy!!

https://vimeo.com/786042242

Could it possibly be time for you all to create a ‘shit on Bond 60th’ thread yet? Asking for a friend…

Lol, the little ending you did is great.

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Only reason it's priced this way is cause they can get away with it cause of the big money collector whales that are in the hobby. It's unfortunate when the normal pins for Bond have tons more value in the package, and this is just expensive for the sake of being expensive and "limited". Nothing about this justifies the price other than "because we can get away with it". And the collectors eat it up, so it just emboldens them to keep doing this stuff.

When are these expected to start shipping, or is that still unknown?

Heaven forbid!! The most expensive pin in history, ZERO innovation or creativity. Not even close. The most expensive should be the most creative and exciting, no?

The game looks creative and exciting to me.

"Innovation" is a pointless buzzword in pinball.

Excellent!

Late Jan/Early February

When you cut the price by almost 50% in your example and it still sounds like it's too much for what you get then someone has to give their heads a shake! Just because you have money does not automatically make you stupid!

So what? My point was that people pay for licenses even if it is to the point of madness. Doesn't matter if they make 5,000 or 5.

Well, I was collecting Upper Deck sports cards a few years ago and this is just the same they did with hockey and basketball. Hockey The Cup cards 1 pack of 5 cards for $500 and the same with Exquisite Basketball. Limited numbers and scarcity that's all. Doesn’t cost much to produce but command huge prices. If this is what pinball has become for new titles in the future I'll keep what I have and move again to a new hobby with more sanity until upper deck guys gets that one too.

I just saw the playfield has Jaws. I love that character, and I like the noise that Stern insider makes when it connects so Im in.

Creative how? Please tell me.

Aren't you one of the guys that trashes the GNR layout with the spinning disc below the Slash hat? And that's not "creative" but this POS is?

New layouts should be creative in EVERY game.. stern has made us accept the same old fan layout with a small change for a decade now. Now because there is a little different layout, it's worth $20K?

If you are thinking this is anything more than a joke for $20K, you're part of the problem.

What is my main takeaway here? This is SADNESS on how our hobby has progressed... it hasn't progressed into amazing technology, art, code, and fun, but has progressed purely into cash grabbing.

CASH GRABBING. This is where my beloved pinball hobby is. And if I say the obvious about the pricing, there's the defenders of the ridiculous or those that want to trash me because to them they think saying it's a good price will somehow make them respected as being rich (or something?).

I'm getting strong Stern Heavy Metal vibes from this pin. https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/heavy-metal They only made 1/3rd of the planned 300 pin limited edition run. It was a reskinned Spiderman Home edition with good art and a bigger LCD for a Premium + price. I see Stern selling 200 of these 60ths and most of those years down the line.

Don't get me wrong, I think the people who got Heavy Metal were the die hards and were thrilled, and I'm sure the Bond 60th buyers will be the same.

Ha I guess that settles that one

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… but those look like plastic, they should be platinum

Honest I was trying not to be hater on Pinside, these games are made by passionate people and they work hard… etc.

Stern just makes it so much fun to be a hater.

We all thought we wanted innovation. Do you know what the most innovative pin I've seen in my (almost) 5 years in this hobby was? Haloween/Ultraman... the possibly worst received pin of the last decade.

20k for this is outrageous (and I don't think they'll sell them all) but for the right buyer, I said it earlier that I'd be in on this for 5,499 and I'd move a pin to do it. But for $20,000 I like the majority of this thread am out. I dropped almost as much with Multimorphic, but that was for a base P3, Weird Al Limited Edition, Heist, and Cosmic Cart racing so I have no room to begrudge people their new pin. The people buying this pin for themselves will be very satisfied. I'd much rather have the entire Bally/Williams class of 81 at this price, but to each their own.

As for the pricing in general... 99% of the general public would think we were nuts paying $4999 for a Godzilla LE. Would it be worth that much to me? Absolutely? But for most people... hard pass.

I've never trashed GNR's playfield here, ever. Nice try though!

There's not an answer I could possibly give you that would make you happy.

Playfield looks awesome, it's designed by someone who isn't only one of the best in the biz (GOAT player, longtime operator who knows what the coin box likes, and proven great designer) but has a HUGE appreciation for the classic 70s games that I and many others love, and that just seeps through in this playfield design.

Please buy me one.

Anyone else surprised that it is 'only' 20k ?

I thought beforehand 25 or even 27 something like.

I really like the layout a lot, it looks like it'll be a great, smooth playing machine.

For me anyway its difficult to judge the art package until I can see it in person, to get a sense of the colours and details. I'm also anxious to hear what songs are included and what if any call outs are incorporated. There could really be some great ones with this franchise.

I can't wait to get my hands on one, I'm anticipating a good time.

Thanks so much

Only?

There is literally nothing about this machine that justifies even a 10k price tag. Would still be overpriced by 25% or more.

You keep using the word “worth” like it means something here. There’s no dollar value to pinball asset or enjoyment conversion. If you like it and can afford it buy it, if not don’t buy it.

This could be the Stern “Jump the Shark” release. It was bound to happen sometime. We already had a topper one.

Maybe but that is the price it would be. Right there with TNA pricing but with 10 times the interest.

Anyone know if there is a gameplay video coming for this with Keith and Jack Danger?

So does the Beatles game many of us like a lot.

It’s just pinball, great theme however

I've had good experience with Gameroom Goodies. If I wanted one I wouldn't hesitate..