In.... thru my Distro. Will catch up on bitching posts tonight.....game looks pretty cool and different from what Im playing now.
Excited to see how the content shakes out on the screen...
Carry on....
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James Bond 007 (60th LE)
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Quoted from 80sMan:This is such crap, I’m out. It looks like they just stole the design from JJP GNR and are trying to charge double the amount for it. It’s got the same side-art style as the LE, Slash’s hat replaced with Oddjob’s and the same size stupid lcd in the center of the playfield instead of the top right.. and we don’t even know what songs are in it? just the same Bond theme over and over again and we’re supposed to just throw 10’s of thousands of dollars at it? Please do better Stern and quit with these crap cash grabs.
GNR has a hat physically mounted to a disc or just floating above it?
Kamloops, BC
Quoted from Gameroom-Goodies:We have availability at $19,999 at Gameroom Goodies.
855-987-4263
Nobody cares.
Quoted from Monte:I blame this whole pinball fiasco on the Disney guy.
I had a bad feeling when I heard about that dude .Went through something similar with a “summer place “ we had .It was only a park model at a very scenic campgrounds but we were very close to about a dozen families there. Big Corporate took over , jacked prices catering to the next class upward and we all had to leave .Sad but what are you going to do .Didn’t JJP go though this recently ? If so this all makes sense now .Carry on 
Funny how a pretty much solid state, no ramp game put into a modern cabinet with a fancy LCD will fetch upwards of 20K US... I will stick with my old stern classics but hope one day I get to play one.
Just for the record , I’m 100% jealous I can’t afford one of these after watching the trailer on it .I really hope to flip one somewhere also .
Quoted from SantaEatsCheese:Shame they waited until 2023 to release this. Now we can't put it on the TWIPY ballot!
Good, it will go up against Pulp Fiction then……
Quoted from CrazyLevi:Mikey likes it!
First comes the bitching
Then comes the rationalizing
Then comes the buying
I don’t know about the long-term “investment” properties of this thing but I think those hoping for a “jump the shark” moment will be disappointed. These will sell, the game will be awesome, and we can all move on to the next outrage.
And no, this doesn’t make your $14K LE “look like a good deal,” the only “good deal” in NIB pinball remains a Stern Pro.
I thought the only good deal in pinball is the one you bought (any one) >2 years ago
This is obviously not a value buy. The people who buy these want a conversation piece and not a game.
Setting the price at slightly below $20k is nonsensical. It’s got no relation to the actual game and people who buy won’t be deterred by price.
I would have set MSRP at $60k for the 60th SLE. The 500 people on this planet who have $20k loose for *that* game also won’t flinch paying $60k. And this number is much more beautiful than $19990 (or whatever MSRP was. Too lazy to sleuth for the real number).
Quoted from Kkoss24:I had a bad feeling when I heard about that dude .Went through something similar with a “summer place “ we had .It was only a park model at a very scenic campgrounds but we were very close to about a dozen families there. Big Corporate took over , jacked prices catering to the next class upward and we all had to leave .Sad but what are you going to do .Didn’t JJP go though this recently ? If so this all makes sense now .Carry on
I think JJP is owned by a family, Brett Abess owns or runs it I believe, that bought out JJP 5 years or so ago.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:I suppose even I say that Toy Story 4 CE looks like a bargain now at $15k lol.
Shhhhhh....here's a little secret. TS4 and BOND 60th are BOTH massively overpriced. 8k for either one would be about right.
Really cool and intriguing looking game. Dream theme for me as well and I'd love to have one but for 1 of 500 at $20k that's a hard pass.
The license fees for all of the Bonds must have crushed them (in addition to the ridiculous price increases) for this to be that expensive.
They only made 80 or so Batman SLE's and they're still selling for less than $20k.
Quoted from NeilMcRae:why is it messed up?
A company is selling something- you can chose to buy or not?
We are beyond "you don't have to buy it" logic here. It's just so obnoxiously bad at this point. What happened to a sense of pride? There's nothing to be proud about here, it's just embarrassing for everyone.
Quoted from tomdotcom:Nobody cares.
Yep.. Nobody cares. It’s 20k and someone people just aren’t addicted enough or foolish enough with their money. Get a Pro or a Premium if you’re into Bond that much. Pro’s are for Professionals.
Quoted from turbo20lbs:We are beyond "you don't have to buy it" logic here. It's just so obnoxiously bad at this point. What happened to a sense of pride? There's nothing to be proud about here, it's just embarrassing for everyone.
You don’t seem to have any newer machines in your collection, how is this one affecting you or offending you so much?
Quoted from galore2112:This is obviously not a value buy. The people who buy these want a conversation piece and not a game.
Setting the price at slightly below $20k is nonsensical. It’s got no relation to the actual game and people who buy won’t be deterred by price.
I would have set MSRP at $60k for the 60th SLE. The 500 people on this planet who have $20k loose for *that* game also won’t flinch paying $60k. And this number is much more beautiful than $19990 (or whatever MSRP was. Too lazy to sleuth for the real number).
And all their friends must have money too cause it would be pretty hard to tell someone how much I paid for one when they arrive in a vehicle worth half this.
OK, so are demandecan55 and
Mr68 still in on one? Surely someone is still excited about it??
Quoted from gk_usa:And all their friends must have money too cause it would be pretty hard to tell someone how much I paid for one when they arrive in a vehicle worth half this.
I don’t tell anyone who’s not in the hobby how much they cost (and I don’t know anyone in the hobby) it would be embarrassing even at all pro prices, lol
Not even any artwork on the signature plastic on the arch where Elwin signs it. It's not a factor in the "buy or don't buy the machine" decision but it is another data point showing that this license seems to be getting pretty hamstrung by the licensor.
The launch party banners were unusually plain and now that same plain design is re-appearing on the Elwin signature plastic on the 60th version. I like the layout of the cornerstone but I'm really starting to wonder if that game (and maybe this version also) will reach its potential if they're too pinned down in code by licensor approvals.
Looks like a great shooter. Well executed retro theme, tons of drops. I'd be in on this if it was somewhat "normally" priced.
Personally I'm glad it's a letdown, they just saved me over $20,000. Hopefully at some point they re theme this Playfield layout with something that isn't an extremely expensive license and sell it for less than 10K. At that point being an old school solid state lover I might actually consider buying one.
Quoted from Cobray:I saw someone post on Facebook that the was "the mandolorian topper of pinball machines".
SPOT ON. LMAO.
Kind of funny when you think of it, the main point of this $20K machine is a cheap video screen also on the playfield and it is 100% a cash grab just like the topper.
No art blades? You can bet your butt they will be $300 extra if you want them!!
The layout is a head scratcher for the money. No return ramps? And now we've placed huge money on drop targets.... DROP TARGETS. Something that has been in the cheapest and most boring games for 50 years! Think about all of the games in the 70's that were just ringing bells and drop targets with no return ramps... here ya go!
No worries about my precious cash being spent here....
Quoted from turbo20lbs:We are beyond "you don't have to buy it" logic here. It's just so obnoxiously bad at this point. What happened to a sense of pride? There's nothing to be proud about here, it's just embarrassing for everyone.
Yup. Stern still has GZ and DP Pros on their site for $7k. It makes their pricing on BOND 60th so loopy. I thought TS4 pricing was terrible (and it is), but Stern just did a "hold my beer".
Quoted from tomdotcom:Nobody cares.
Some people do, you may not, and that is why there is only 500 of them. Hope you have a better day and don't let things as simple as pinball ruin your mood
Quoted from mnpinball:Good, it will go up against Pulp Fiction then……
Can't wait... because right now.... I see it like this...
1568777563982 (resized).jpgsmall_plate (resized).pngsquare-1483576575-big-kahuna (resized).jpgQuoted from timtim:Damn bank thought a 20k transaction for a pin was a scam.
it is
Stern's top tier is now more expensive than JJP's top Tier is now more expensive than CGC's top Tier is now more expensive than Multimorphic's top tier is now more expensive than Spooky's top tier. Was not expecting Multimorphic and Spooky to be the low price leaders.
Quoted from timtim:Damn bank thought a 20k transaction for a pin was a scam.
The bank knows more about this hobby than we've caught on to, apparently.
I wouldn't jump at 20% back from Distributor's Invoice...
and I prefer single level games to all others. Damn shame they wasted this layout on this License.
Quoted from Mr68:.
January 3rd Insurrection at Stern Headquarters
The only 007 Bond related Erection is already on the Pro, Prem, & LE.
London
JJP: We are excited to announce our newest game, Toy Story 4 at the low cost of $12K!
*crowd throws tomatoes and boos*
Stern: Hold my beer.
Quoted from Straight2VHS:I got one!
Condolences
Quoted from demandecan55:This game needs a Mod desperately - a PPK gun shooter
Nah, it already comes with the super cool, obviously expensive and exclusive custom union jack shooter rod...
The one nice thing about the pricing is that these will go into the hands of real enthusiasts I don’t see flippers making a profit on these as they are making too many of them.
Quoted from timtim:Damn bank thought a 20k transaction for a pin was a scam.
That thought isn’t exclusive to your bank.
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