If Stern puts out a good $7k future game I suspect pinballers will flock to buy it. Forum anger is kinda like boycotts, mostly a bunch of saber rattling, projecting, venting. I guess I refuse to believe that someone will not buy a game they like at a price they can afford just because Stern put out some games they can't afford.

Haha. Stern going to put out a game anyone wants to buy at $7k in the future?

Not Stern, JJP, AP, Spooky or any other pin manufacturer. It’s higher prices or bust

Really?

Well, a Pro model

Man, how times have changed right?

Hoping for a $7k pro!

That is still a lot of $$$ but I hear you. Ops can make it work if it’s not a $7k Homepin

BTW, it was your meme that got the snarky remark. You didnt think you were first did you?

Unreality, meet reality. Stern aint dipping into the 7g market until the next Danger hom3pin.

A while back I heard that they were thinking that Cornerstone Bond would unlock some stuff in 60th Bond through insider connected and vice versa, is that still gonna happen? I wouldn't blame them if they dropped the idea. But I for one thought it would have made for a fascinating experiment.

That’s what Gomez said

Where I live it's reality as James Bond Pro (and other Pro models) are $7k. But my point ultimately was if a game comes out that someone loves and it's in their price range, they will buy it regardless of how slighted they may feel right now.

Thanks for letting me know, I’ve removed it and had made reference I was not the first. I get why those that have purchased this want to defend it. Heck I almost pulled the Walther PPK trigger on it too, lol. But then slapped myself into the reality that there are just not enough buyers in that high stratosphere to want to buy my HUO 60th if I wanted to ever get rid of it. Few buyers at $22k with tax will ever even pay close to that. In Texas, the oil baron days are pretty much gone, lol. (And now an even more worrisome indicator is our Texas basketball card collectors are not buying either! )

There's always someone who's "done" until something gets announced and it's a dream theme.

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I'm not an economist, I don't play one on TV, I have no idea what's going to happen to the market. But it seems to me things are healthier for the hobby in general if machines lose value when used. Even if that only means your $10k pin is worth $9500 once you decide to move it. Doug has the right idea, you should buy, enjoy it, and if you sell it for a loss that's fine, the enjoyment was the value.

These things are supposed to be fun.

Trying to predict the the future value of this game though, let alone the whole market, strikes me as pointless.

A pro model of Bond 60th is coming, it features a slightly scaled down layout at a reduced price of $10k.

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The barren oil fields most likely account for the absence of oil barons. :>

Now that’s a good one! And so cheap at only half price! Lolololo!!!

I plan on getting one in a barn find 30 years from now with dead node boards.

Thus less likely to sell or any need to sell. Game hits 30k within 2 years.

I gotta get a deal ASAP

Love idea of annual Gilly award for marketing messups. Would have voted for JB launch, JB60 game and JB60 exclusive topper as my 1-2-3 choices for 2022, although some of the developments spilled into this year.

I am stoked-one of our pinball club members is getting a 007 SLE-now I get to live vicariously through him and get to flip it in person to see how good it really is. Good thing about pinball is having friends with the machines you want to flip first before pulling any triggers. I am really excited to flip this game in person.

Pinside needs a NIB Pricing Satisfaction Index. Similar to a misery index, it would ask one question - are you satisfied with current NIB pricing? Possible answers are yes, no or idk and would result in telling us x% of people who are satisfied with nib pricing. So maybe the poll shows 29% satisfied right now. Tracking and charting the value over time gives us one piece of data. Maybe in 5 years the value is down to 10% or it could hold steady or increase (gasp) to 40%. But we’d know more than we do now. Would have been nice to have had this ten years ago when restored MM were $10-$15k and some thought the market might collapse at any minute.

It kinda did with the remakes.

So I get down voted for expressing my excitement about getting the opportunity to flip this game in person?(seriously who does not want to flip this Elwin game) WTF is Pinside coming to? Please do not post anything about playing this game or people getting one-talk about negative Nancie's.

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You will have to excuse ASAC Schrader, don't know if you are aware but he's new here.

Could be Kaneda's new fake account-can't keep up with all of them

Pinball pricing is stupid now. Avoid FOMO and be patient. With 1k- 60th and 1k LE, they will be available a long time. Prices will drop! Stern is not selling this title as expected. Patience is a virtue, lol well, that’s what my dad used to tell me.

Having patience is a superpower !!!

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actually, by adding "carrot" flippers to GB. It fixes the geometry. And the game shoots 50% better than it did with original flippers. Everything just seemed off a bit before. Everyone that plays mine, says it shoots so much better than others they have played. And fixes the flipper gap problem. Surprisenly. It only reduced drains by maybe 5%, but improve shot quality by 50 to70%.

looks like AFM. Eco line of the B/W WPC games.

There are some super sensitive, thin-skinned little man-babies in this hobby. One thing money can't buy you is emotional stability.

Did you know Pinside has a block button now? I didn't know that!

I'm glad you get to flip it, sounds super fun. I hope I get the opportunity to try it myself. Bless anyone who buys a $20k collector game and then uses that as an opportunity to share it with others. That's the opposite of the loser mentalities, and in my experience at least the cool people outnumber the losers by a large margin.

It's just that it only takes one turd in the punch bowl to turn you off.

And did you know that you can block someone, log in anonymously or on a 2nd Pinside account, and still read their comments?

Hi Aurich.

I'll likely never play this game, much less even lay eyes on one, in person!

I'm only here for "woke" "downvote" "price police" drama!

Carry on.

Wait, thought it was 500 60th, not 1k or is that just a typo?

That is what pinball is all about. Sharing with your family and friends. Bond60th is a single level throw back game. The game is not for everyone and the price is not for everyone. I am sure that nearly every person that buys this game will share it with all their family and friends.

How many restored MM’s were there then?

Not many.

We are talking about thousands and thousands of $10k + pins now and into the future.

The risk/reward if one is looking at it that way is to the downside, as more and more supply hits the market in the years to come

Congrats!
Since you are new, please have a housewarming party and invite Pinside over.
$100 a play?

Has it delivered? What would be a high light?

Congrats!! Hoping I get a call this week....

Well, I got mine... I had to build it first. A fun shooter for sure, very fast with a decent 50/50 challenge (half of the shots are easy, half are hard). No idea what Stern's rules will be, so I made up my own. No Oddjob hat in mine, I had a better idea.

Enjoy your game! I think you will : )

Dude. That’s pretty amazing. Looks fun.

So cool dude! Thanks for posting up the video, game looks awesome.

I would have added a different designer.

This makes me want this game more than anything Stern has shown me to date.

Plenty for sale. Buy one

I think he wants virtual interpretation by SLAMT1LT (https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/james-bond-60th-edition-sle-super-limited-elwin-hype-thread/page/106#post-7350388)

Easy now to see which '90s pins have become classics and gained in value and which games have not. The coming years will show which modern Sterns get revered like Attack from Mars and which are more like No Fear.

I have not made any calls about this game, but I am curious about the chatter. What are distros saying about this game? Sold out-available-how much? Seems like crickets with the details
Are distros going to hold these like the Beatles? Inquiring minds want to know

Sooo, with all this single level talk, I went back and played The Beatles, which I initially crapped on. I told myself its not Met, or GZ etc, its single level. Once I got that in straight in my mind had a much better experience and really did enjoy it! I really hope the chance to play the Bond SLE comes around, maybe Zapcon...

With that said, what are some classic single level pin titles I should look into? Dont have TNA and up $$$

Think Id just call around tomorrow for a straight, real answer( kind of). The three (3) distros I buy from had sold their allotment to end users.

I also know of one distro that has a Godzilla LE, but not letting it go....to say these games are readily available in quantity or completely sold out is highly, highly doubtful...Pinside talk....

I don't think distros that do get a few are going to give them away. I have to admit-I am interested if the price were right(not 20k). I got really upset with the whole Supreme game release but starting to realize these contract builds are different. What is different about Supreme is that game is a turd and this Elwin game looks good. I imagine Joe K. relationship with MGM and slot machines is why we are where we are. Really wish this game could sell to the masses and was more affordable.

Careful… you are teetering into dangerous point-of-no-return territory. I am still trying to figure out how to cure my addiction to these games.

Definitely stay away from Frontier, Mata Hari, Stars, Quicksilver, hell… any early Bally or Stern SS for that matter. Kids - don’t try crack!

Love my seawitch. Put a little coin in Beatles on location a couple weeks back - nice little changes, but I honestly prefer seawitch. Unfortunately many do, and it's a bit pricey for what it is. Stars, Meteor, Ali are great stern games that you can find reasonably. Firepower and firepower 2 are great Williams of that era. I love centaur and Eight Ball Deluxe - those are also pricey for their age, but if you can deal with the ugly cab Centaur 2 and EBD limited edition are the same game for very reasonable prices (because those cabs suck).

Would love to have one of these Bonds, just not at 20k. Can't imagine they'll reuse the layout on something cheaper either - anyone who bit the bullet on one of these at 20k would be justifiably pissed...not that that seems to bother stern though, so who knows.