That's refreshing (though I've directed my criticisms elsewhere since I'm not an owner). I remember when I picked up Beatles Gold...MANY people were pissing all over it (not worth the price, Seawitch re-theme, etc.). I liked it and didn't really care what others were complaining about. Stated my case for why I thought it was cool and moved on. Some of the defensiveness and cheerleading I've seen here has been unfortunate, so thanks for your post!

Ultimately, the competition is with the manufacturers (not the collector community). Bond 60th's are easy to get and will therefore be discounted. PFLE's are sold out and there are long lines to snap up LE positions in the queue (for a premium). The community votes with their wallets. It's really an embarrassment that Stern is having such difficulty selling Bond 60th with so few being built.

You are not an owner and you are not a fan. You bag the game and the owners every chance you get. Owners clubs are for people to enjoy their games both good and bad. Why would you even want to post in this thread?. Sure you do not secretly love and want the game?

Again, you are not an owner and not a fan. Respectfully, take it to the hype thread.

Think there were only going to be 250 built for the US anyway. Marketplace shows about a split of people selling for profit, selling under $20k, and WTB posts. I'm sure they are close if not completely done building all of them.

JB sold at 20k, PF 10k. Done, finished, over. People "spoke with their wallets" that the game was too expensive for most. Been beat to freakin death.

If Stern had offered this game for 10k, and at least 1.5 years to see delivered like PF, then they would have been beyond sold out at 1k plus units. I love CGC, but already seeing people flipping spots for $1k profit, and the usual shenanigans. JB60 will have very, very little of that.

Not even posting in the PF thread as I'm not a buyer...never, ever understood otherwise.

Open, constructive club threads talking about the machine itself, good and bad, are healthy. Rehashing the obvious just to stir shit....well....

Agreed...nothing wrong with being excited and loving the game you bought in a club thread though..I like watching the unboxings and feeling the new owners excitement.

Just don't have anything negative to say..yet ( except " for 20k it should be letting me get better scores." )

Got the call yesterday from Nitro that mine is in. Really on the fence if I open it up or sell it. After watching a lot more play action videos I'm very nervous it's gonna be another Bond failure. I know it'such different than the Bond LE, but man was I ever disappointed in the heaping pile of a game. If anyone wants one for MSRP, hit me up.

As long as the criticisms aren’t about price or “value” which was 95% of the hype thread (it got old)

My favorite shot right now (getting kind of good at it) is holding left flipper, then launching for skill shot which drops all 3 in-line targets (have to hit the first in-line pretty quick). Sets up MB pretty well, and crazy satisfying....

Certainly hope no one pretending to like it to "justify" the price. Ditto on my enjoyment factor as it really is fun to shoot, over and over (ok, yes, I love it...)

You must do this!!! Plunge hits the left flipper at a tough spot, but I've gotten used to it....what a rush!!! Super fun...
( I found it by just messing around holding a flipper button...think there is a third skillshot I haven't found yet)

What Bond failure? We have a LE and love it. Watching the code mature is great.

This hobby is all about yourself and what you like. Everybody is different. Just because people put shit on a game does not mean you need to listen to them.

Just my two cents, big steaming hot bag. I'm glad you like it, carry on!

This is awesome, I didn’t know about it either but it boosted my scores (sad as they are) right away to where I finally hit 10k

I was just about to post if anyone had found the third skill shot? I hit it today on accident.

Wait..what's the 3rd? I know inlane, hold left flipper, plunge goes past gate for in-line, but not sure of the other one.

Changed out the t-molding, start button, flipper buttons and added mirror blades and a powered sub.
Also did a little tweaking so the left lock is more consistent from the far left shot (thanks for the tip yancy about the slim post rubber). I tried changing the flipper rubbers to PerfectPlays but it plays better with the harder factory rubbers.

Maybe I’ll add some super lube to the spinners just for fun.

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I’ll PM you not to spoil it.

One of them is holding the left flipper for full lunge around and hitting the right escape/M shot

oops

Then that makes four!

Skill shots are q, m, top lane and inline drops

With a cheevo for doing three different ones in a game

Well PM me the third!

Nevermind, I think ive gotten the Q also without realizing

Good grief!!...back to the game

There are several available to purchase in my area, both from distributors and collectors that decided to go with other games (https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/for-sale-james-bond-007-60th-le-1). For "hot/limited" games, it's usually much harder to locate the games (and they aren't being deeply discounted). It's just so obvious that Stern botched this one. Even more obvious is how CGC and Play Mechanix schooled Stern on how to nail a modern retro and pay homage to an amazing license. For the crowd that likes to buy everything, I get it...knock yourself out! Since I want to keep my lineup to ~15 (for space reasons), buying everything just doesn't make sense for me...I need to be more discriminating.

I don’t know that it’s obvious CGC “schooled” Stern on anything here… I own a 60th and I’ve preordered a PFLE. I think PF will be great because it has a great theme, Bond is great because it’s an amazing shooter. Both licensers had different demands, and both companies did a great job under those constraints. One or both machine may not suit everyone or make sense in their collection. They are not really that similar in gameplay at all and are only being compared because they are in the small group of pseudo-retro games available.

" Schooled"? Ffs...just stop. Your opinion has been heard....price, price, price. My opinion is different then yours and carries exactly the same weight.

Preach wherever you want. Fortunately, I buy my own games and your opinion ( beyone price, price, price) is simply bullshit...own it after 10 games, just tired of hearing it...especially in an owners club thread

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Your point has been made numerous times. Since this is an owners thread, and you’re clearly not participating with this title (I honestly respect your reasons for not doing so), please take your efforts to the hype thread.

PF LE sold out a game no one had even seen played. Some of these "buyers" are already trying to flip their spot at a profit. Unfortunately we see this with a lot of limited games including a few Bond 60th that have shown up on this form. Anyone who has been in this hobby as long as you have knows that some great games at one point sold for less than MSRP and went up in value later (SW, GotG, DP, NST, Hobbit, POTC, Met, ACDC, Beatles, BKSOR, Kiss, BM66, and pretty much every Bally Williams game). Other games there there was initial hype and people flipping for over MSRP haven't faired as well (RZ, LOV, DI, ACNC, Halloween).

For me and probably most of the other buyers none of this has any bearing on our enjoyment of these games. The hype thread got beat to death with 7k+ posts almost all complaining about price and perceived market value. Let's let this thread be for people that want to talk about the game itself.

Played it last night at AYCE Gogi in van nuys and loved it. very beautiful machine with an interesting and fun playfield. But in my party of four, the three other players who aren't as obsessive as I am about pinball all preferred the Bond Thunderball next to it. The lack of ramps and toys seem to aim this machine at those who've been here for all 60 years of Bond movies. It's very hard to see how they justify the price other than manufactured scarcity. I wish they'd use the playfield design for a Bond 60 year Home Version with no topper for $6000. It would be very tempting and I think they'd sell like hotcakes. But I'm sure this has all been covered in this long thread I'm not going to read. Just wanted to add my 2cents having actually played it finally. Great game, terrible price.

Lol, undaunted it’s another post about price and perceived value. We’ll done

no one gives a shit about the price discussion y'all it's in the OP lol

Here, definitively, so no one has to post it any more: no, no pinball is worth twenty thousand dollars. there you go. Again.

First off - your cosmetic updates look amazing. I’ve always been a fan of how this game looks (even cabinet art) and with the blue, it looks even better. In fact, I just bought all of the things you’re showing here for my 60th……

Say what?

Yep - I’m joining the club soon fellas. Still hate the asking price for sure and although I’m not going to disclose what I ended up paying, I didn’t pay MSRP+tax etc. Haven’t received it yet but should be coming in soon.

I’ve just heard too many good things about this game (outside of this owners thread mostly) and considering my love for Elwin, the fact I do think this will be hard to find down the road (as it’s 500 only of the entire game, not a version of it like Elvira), the super cool theme, it’s different than anything I have (my Pulp Fiction LE is ways away!) and the price I paid, I’m in. Btw - that moby version of the theme just kicks ass and the 1980s effects sound great too!

As I wait for mine, I’ll continue reading through impressions while also considering if I can access that main screen on the pf. Not sure if I would add movie clips to this game like I did when creating the movie code for Jurassic Park but something else that could make it pop even more. I’ve always been a fan of PF screens and this one seems to use it well with instruction - even though they look very clip art/amateur! More to come.

Congratulations! We haven’t received ours yet either. Stern still has them on the scheduled to be built so I’m told. Ours is one of two that our distributor has yet to receive. The other being sold to a friend of mine. Looking forward to it!

Did you take off the black art blades they put on it? Or just put the mirror over top of them?

What mirror blades did you go with? I ordered an extra set from pinball life, but wasn’t sure they will fit. It does list Beatles, so I thought surely they will work.

I went with Cointaker’s version. Tight fit, but my pf glass was already very tight to begin with.

Mounted them over the top. The mirror blades screw in and they go down deeper into the cabinet than the black art blades. So no damage to them I’d I wanted to revert back.

So close! I needed one more gadget to start Gadget MB, then the 007 Wizard Mode. First time starting Bond MB & Villian MB.
I’m loving the Insider achievements more on this game than any of my other Sterns. I’ve completed 70/94 so far.

Edit; I may have death saved a ball or two. I definitely tilted on my 2nd ball. Got an extra ball for collecting three Bonds and another for hitting all three top lane skill shots.

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Those mirror blades look fantastic in this game. Great choice.

I finally played this game at Gogi, damn I want one. It's like no other pinball machine I've played in recent memory.

edit: did you have to drill holes or are they already there for the mirror blades?

The ones from Cointaker has holes drilled. I believe the ones from Pinball Life have adhesive on them.

Killing it!! Agreed on the IC for this game. The whole package is super addictive!!

( tempted on the mirror..looks great!) Doing some other minor touches ( t-molding and start button were naturals).

Have to be away from the games for 10 days ( ahh) but will post some things upon return...

Biggest change was swapping out the upper left post rubber so I could successfully make the Bond lock shot. Also concentrated on starting the villains.

Nice!!! You went w the thinner Stern posts, correct? That's the way I was going after it...

Yes. One of the Titan slim post.

Another Bond pin just turned the 60th Anv. Edition version cost into pocket change comparatively speaking.

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$130,000