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Jacksonville, FL. Mass shooting: Several killed at video game tournament

By Join_The_Cirqus

5 years ago


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    #48 5 years ago
    Quoted from Who-Dey:

    Nobody is going to tell me that i dont have the right to protect myself or my family.

    I understand the "don't take away my guns" reaction. But please for a moment consider: is there a point we could reach at which you would agree that there is too much gun violence? What if the rate of gun deaths was twice as high? 5 times? 10 times? Certainly there must be some threshold, right?

    I don't think we should ban guns. However, we've long passed what I would consider an acceptable homicide rate here in the US. We're many multiples higher than other countries that have comparable levels of wealth, economy, democracy, etc. The countries which have similar homicide rates to the US are ones which many of us would consider dangerous to travel to.

    Incidents like this typically trigger a 2nd amendment standoff. Maybe there is a way to have a discussion that doesn't start with guns, but instead starts with an agreement from people on both sides that the current homicide rate in the United States is unacceptable? Can we agree on that?

    #52 5 years ago
    Quoted from chad:

    I agree there are too many shootings. But as I mentioned earlier need to take a look into these Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor
    Class of drugs. For one any type of anti depression

    Definitely an extremely high rate of (legal) drugs being used here as well.

    With a bit of quick research, I found this: "In a systematic review of placebo-controlled trials in adult healthy volunteers, we showed that antidepressants double the occurrence of events that the FDA has defined as possible precursors to suicide and violence" (https://www.bmj.com/content/358/bmj.j3697/rr-4)

    That's certainly not good.

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