Ice, your such a kindred spirit. I DON'T pity the fool, for if one is a fool it is by their own choosing.

However, Jack has raised the bar on pins to a degree and is responsible for giving Stern a much needed kick in the ass.

hoping JJP is trying to reinvent to improve quality, not just to bypass the usual vendor suspects. Both would be fine too if they are being Primadonnas.

All it takes is one special bracket or screw size/type to stop production. I rebuild engines at my dealership. One piece not shipped? Engine sits in pieces for 3 days.

True dat Tedster. Soooo many lightyears better than the attitudes on RGP. I find myself cranky at times too, just not everyday...all day...

Funny how some of these weeds hate us so much yet they start multiple accounts to get back in here after getting banned.

'Ready' to buy. There's the trick Ice-bro. Bryan F'ing Kelly is kickass in my book. If he claims it, Jack defames it. I was out after I bought Woz, never again unless post production ready.

It's almost July people! TH was set to ship last Nov/Dec. with everything going on with money, I absolutely believe it's a paying the bills death spiral for JJP.

Nuff bashing. Now take on good news. Jack ain't no dummy. He can pull his company in any direction needed quickly and if, IF money is the issue, not vendors/suppliers, JJP may come out on top. Also, Jack taking feedback from community was great. His learning curve was a shitload shorter than Sterns was.

But IMO, JJP needs to sell a lot of already made WOZ's and TH's to catch up or Stern will be the only one back in the game soon enough.

Are WOZ's presently not on back orders right now?

Original WOZ was cc'd cab, tough as nails and beautiful. I own one. Unless you smash it on the corner or hit it directly with a bat, good luck damaging it unlike decals.

Then later WOZ's shipped with decals.

Back glass delammed and pf's losing artwork early? Cheaper vendors to cut costs. When it works, genius. When it doesn't.... Death spiral. Hopefully TH later models will be better than early versions?

LCD for LE and Premium, dmd for Pro?