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Jack•Bot plastics set (complete) needed as loaner!


By Outsidedge

2 years ago



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#1 2 years ago

Hi All,
We are working with PPS on remanufacturing fresh plastics sets for many games. We have been asked to produce Jack•Bot plastics. Is there anyone out there with a COMPLETE set to loan us? In return, you will get a BRAND NEW set back with your originals for FREE. Please PM me if you can help. Thank you

- ACS/Outside Edge

#2 2 years ago

BUMP! Need loaner parts!

#3 2 years ago

I hope someone has a set. I've never seen any Jackbot plastics for sale in 10 years, other than the slingshots. Jackbot is a great underrated game. Mine is never leaving.

#4 2 years ago

any chance of pinbot plastics getting made? that's pretty cool about the jackbot plastics. hope to own one, one day

#5 2 years ago

I would pull the set off my game after league plays here in 3 weeks but my plastic to the right of the ramp is trashed badly.

#6 2 years ago

Do they have to be new? As I just got a jackbot and from what I can see just 1 cracked plastic

#7 2 years ago

How long will they be needed? I could pull mine. They are in good shape.

#8 2 years ago

Hi All,
I have had a few PM me. I think we will be covered... and yes... these ARE being made. They will eventually be for sale on the PPS website. I am guessing 3-6 weeks tops.

#9 2 years ago
Quoted from Outsidedge:

Hi All,
I have had a few PM me. I think we will be covered... and yes... these ARE being made. They will eventually be for sale on the PPS website. I am guessing 3-6 weeks tops.

I would be interested in a set. Do you have a rough idea of how much it would cost?

#10 2 years ago

Oh man I have a Jackbot coming and was wondering if new plastics would be made. Count me in for a set. Now how about the mini pf.

#11 2 years ago
Quoted from Outsidedge:

Hi All,
I have had a few PM me. I think we will be covered... and yes... these ARE being made. They will eventually be for sale on the PPS website. I am guessing 3-6 weeks tops.

Good news this

#12 2 years ago
Quoted from MustangPaul:

Oh man I have a Jackbot coming and was wondering if new plastics would be made. Count me in for a set. Now how about the mini pf.

Yes, the mini field is going to be reproduced. I just need a complete set off a production game. We are still searching... although one collector is considering to help us.

#13 2 years ago
Quoted from Outsidedge:

Yes, the mini field is going to be reproduced. I just need a complete set off a production game. We are still searching... although one collector is considering to help us.

That sounds great, this game needs some love. Is a plastic protector set feasible, clear or colored plastic for this game? I'd hate to be breaking new plastics for this game. lol

#14 2 years ago

Best. News. This. Year.

#15 2 years ago
Quoted from SkeebWilcox:

Best. News. This. Year.

I take it you want a set. Me too.

#16 2 years ago
Quoted from Outsidedge:

Yes, the mini field is going to be reproduced. I just need a complete set off a production game. We are still searching... although one collector is considering to help us.

I wish I could help you get a complete set of plastics but sadly every single plastic in my Jack*bot is either cracked or broken off somewhere.

#17 2 years ago

This really is great news - such a sweet game.

#18 2 years ago

I will buy a set for sure

#19 2 years ago

Me too I'm in 100% - Hope Outsidege will be ok with all the samples. I discovered this pin just one year ago and is fantastic, addictive gameplay rules, I'm getting one in few days but with the usual casino run plastic badly cracked and another couple in bad shape.

#20 2 years ago

I would be in for a set as well

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#21 2 years ago

Is there an update on where this stands?

#22 2 years ago

These are in production and will likely hit the PPS website in the next 4-6 weeks.

#23 2 years ago

Awesome! Thx!!

#24 2 years ago
Quoted from Outsidedge:

Yes, the mini field is going to be reproduced. I just need a complete set off a production game. We are still searching... although one collector is considering to help us.

Is this metal attachment point at the bottom of the mini pf going to be on the new mini pf? I just took off my mini pf to replace one of the mini posts and clean the whole thing up and found that ALL the mini posts are glued on then screwed on from the underside. Is the new mini pf going to be the same way?

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#25 2 years ago
Quoted from Outsidedge:

These are in production and will likely hit the PPS website in the next 4-6 weeks.

This is great news !!

#26 2 years ago
Quoted from MustangPaul:

Is this metal attachment point at the bottom of the mini pf going to be on the new mini pf? I just took off my mini pf to replace one of the mini posts and clean the whole thing up and found that ALL the mini posts are glued on then screwed on from the underside. Is the new mini pf going to be the same way?

I'd assume you'll have to buy your own posts and rivet that metal piece on...

#27 2 years ago

There will be no metal parts (or plastic posts) included with the new mini field. The parts from your old one will need transferred.

#28 2 years ago

I'm really looking forward to getting a new plastics set for my Jack Bot. Thanks for the work on this Outsidedge. Now, can I talk you into doing a set of plastics for Johnny Mnemonic?

#29 2 years ago
Quoted from Outsidedge:

There will be no metal parts (or plastic posts) included with the new mini field. The parts from your old one will need transferred.

Bummer, I hope ALL the holes will be in the right places.

#30 2 years ago
Quoted from MustangPaul:

Bummer, I hope ALL the holes will be in the right places.

As long as ALL the games were built identically for this part, it will line up. What we cannot account for are "factory variations" that have plagued the repro folks like me over and over. We get Williams CAD files and examples off production games... and we make them to a "T"... then some customer somewhere in the world gets them... and they don't match. Then said customer promptly gets online and proclaims their rage over "poorly produced" repros that "don't match". If anyone reading this is planning on a trip to Expo... plan on attending my seminar that I will be hosting with Greg Freres as a guest speaker explaining that MANY, MANY games left these factories dissimilar to one another both in locations of parts, the parts themselves and different art. Also explanations as to why and how this happened.

This fact makes my job as a well meaning repro company... let's just say "fun".

#31 2 years ago

OK, last question Jack Bot owners.... Other than sling plastics... are there any other "prone" parts for breakage on this game? We may be able to run extras while on press. Gosh... I feel like I am over using the "" marks today.

#32 2 years ago
Quoted from Outsidedge:

OK, last question Jack Bot owners.... Other than sling plastics... are there any other "prone" parts for breakage on this game? We may be able to run extras while on press. Gosh... I feel like I am over using the "" marks today.

Good ask! The plastic under the visor lid but above the eye locks and the long plastic by the game saucer along side the ramp are typically broken.

#33 2 years ago
Quoted from Outsidedge:

OK, last question Jack Bot owners.... Other than sling plastics... are there any other "prone" parts for breakage on this game? We may be able to run extras while on press. Gosh... I feel like I am over using the "" marks today.

I often saw the big one long blue plastic on the left of casino run, being cracked on some JP pinballs I saw. I heard this was because the nuts holding this were overtightened, could be? Mine is really bad cracked and it's the only one that is broken.
Anyway, I really appreciate what you do for pinball community, thanks again, a complete JB set was really impossible to find...

#34 2 years ago

The left ramp sign is frequently chipped and cracked.... and the plastic under the visor (as someone else noted)

#35 2 years ago

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#36 2 years ago

Thank you Pinsiders! This helps us and PPS make better decisions on what to make.

Jack Bot plastics in the oven!

#37 2 years ago
Quoted from Outsidedge:

As long as ALL the games were built identically for this part, it will line up. What we cannot account for are "factory variations" that have plagued the repro folks like me over and over. We get Williams CAD files and examples off production games... and we make them to a "T"... then some customer somewhere in the world gets them... and they don't match. Then said customer promptly gets online and proclaims their rage over "poorly produced" repros that "don't match". If anyone reading this is planning on a trip to Expo... plan on attending my seminar that I will be hosting with Greg Freres as a guest speaker explaining that MANY, MANY games left these factories dissimilar to one another both in locations of parts, the parts themselves and different art. Also explanations as to why and how this happened.
This fact makes my job as a well meaning repro company... let's just say "fun".

I understand all that, I hope the colors match well.

#38 2 years ago

Would clear plastic protectors make sense on this game? Especially for the slings.

#39 2 years ago

I bought a set of Pin Bot plastic protectors and modified them where necessary to fit my Jack Bot. It wasn't too bad of a job, and now I have a set of plastic protectors to protect all vulnerable plastics. This is not a bad option for those buying plastics that are concerned about ball strikes damaging them (which is a valid concern).

#40 2 years ago
Quoted from Rum-Z:

I bought a set of Pin Bot plastic protectors and modified them where necessary to fit my Jack Bot. It wasn't too bad of a job, and now I have a set of plastic protectors to protect all vulnerable plastics. This is not a bad option for those buying plastics that are concerned about ball strikes damaging them (which is a valid concern).

Cool, who sells them.

#41 2 years ago
Quoted from MustangPaul:

Cool, who sells them.

It's been a few years since I bought them, but I recall buying the set of protectors from Pinball Decals shown on this page: http://pinballdecals.com/PartsByGamePages/Pinbot_Page.html

I remember modifying the sling plastics quite a bit by first sawing off the inlane extensions and then polishing the edges. I also remember modifying a couple others, but from what I remember, the sling plastics required the most work. I couldn't find any plastic protectors for Jack Bot at all when I bought mine 3 years or so ago, and my plastics were in decent shape, so I needed some protectors and figured this was my best bet. I can't believe nobody has made jack Bot specific plastic protectors by now. It's a great game.

#42 2 years ago
Quoted from Outsidedge:

There will be no metal parts (or plastic posts) included with the new mini field. The parts from your old one will need transferred.

This is impossible, or at best, not advised. The bracket needs to have the rivets drilled and replaced (which is fine, and very doable), but the red posts....

LOL...

Those stupid f'ks at Williams GLUED THEM IN. Like they put glue around the base and then screwed them in as well. Just buy new ones, and new screws. You'll thank me later. Half of them *will* break when you to get enough torque on them to break the glue. The plastic is like 22 years old...it's too brittle to effectively remove them unless you have a magic mini-pf that somehow didn't get the posts glued. Even then I'd still recommend replacement over re-use. They're pretty cheap little things and if you're going to the trouble to replace that thing you might as well make it look awesome as well.

#43 2 years ago

jackbot plastic protectors, slingshots and inlanes.

https://www.pinballbulbs.com/products/jackbot-pinball-truecolor-plastic-protectors

available in various colours

#44 2 years ago
Quoted from Rum-Z:

It's been a few years since I bought them, but I recall buying the set of protectors from Pinball Decals shown on this page: http://pinballdecals.com/PartsByGamePages/Pinbot_Page.html
I remember modifying the sling plastics quite a bit by first sawing off the inlane extensions and then polishing the edges. I also remember modifying a couple others, but from what I remember, the sling plastics required the most work. I couldn't find any plastic protectors for Jack Bot at all when I bought mine 3 years or so ago, and my plastics were in decent shape, so I needed some protectors and figured this was my best bet. I can't believe nobody has made jack Bot specific plastic protectors by now. It's a great game.

Thanks for the link, sounds like an easy job. Well they only sold 2500 games so they probably figured the demand wasn't there.

#45 2 years ago

If memory serves correctly... JackBot was only made because of an issue with another game (a license was lost?). And they quickly "re-themed" Pinbot and got it on the line. So that 2,500 probably was driven by what Williams felt they needed to cover.

Pretty sure that's how the story goes.

#46 2 years ago
Quoted from MustangPaul:

Thanks for the link, sounds like an easy job. Well they only sold 2500 games so they probably figured the demand wasn't there.

Yeah, that's my guess. I am super happy new plastics are being made, as I never thought that would happen. Although most of mine are complete, there are a lot of scratches through the screen print on the backside, which is annoying on an otherwise nice machine.

#47 2 years ago
Quoted from Giulio:

jackbot plastic protectors, slingshots and inlanes.
https://www.pinballbulbs.com/products/jackbot-pinball-truecolor-plastic-protectors
available in various colours

Is it me or do those look insanely thick to anyone else?

Isn't a "true color" plastic protector simply just transparent? I get what's trying to be done here, but most people just clown-puke Pinbot and Jackbot anyways. I was definitely guilty of the 'matched sides' GI on Pinbot. By the time I got Jackbot I realized that it looked terrible. These are visual mods first and most, and the protection is an auxilliary benefit unless you're going to offer them in places that actually need protection. It's a pretty far stretch to claim that slings and inlane guides are the only ones that need it on this game.

There's like four or five other vulnerable plastics on JB that actually need to be protected not just from breakage, but from ball wear from ejects, particularly on the sample games where it's NOT a scoop and the ball can rub against the top of the plastic when it gets kicked out of the saucers. It sucks, because at one point I had outlines on grid paper that I'd traced of the plastic, along with suggested extended edges for ball protection at points of breakage....but everyone I talked to wanted me to provide vector files, and I had no clue at the time how to go about doing that. I'm pretty sure I tossed the papers after giving up on trying to get people to make a full set of protectors, not just some half-assed thing.

This game, more than most, really does *need* a FULL set of protectors.

#48 2 years ago
Quoted from MustangPaul:

I understand all that, I hope the colors match well.

ohh sure! Just like these 2 originals I received today for an upcoming backglass run. I will make sure it matches the original colors exactly.

Just making a point... However, I have not yet seen variations of the Jack Bot plastics... so I just "may" have a chance at success without claims of pinball sacrilege. Jack Bot was likely produced with only one print order... so we are probably ok unless there were hole drilling adventures (variations at the factory) to solve issues while on the assembly line that have gone unknown... until we find it.

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#49 2 years ago
Quoted from MustangPaul:

Thanks for the link, sounds like an easy job. Well they only sold 2500 games so they probably figured the demand wasn't there.

I believe you are correct.

oops wrong quote...

#50 2 years ago
Quoted from 27dnast:

If memory serves correctly... JackBot was only made because of an issue with another game (a license was lost?). And they quickly "re-themed" Pinbot and got it on the line. So that 2,500 probably was driven by what Williams felt they needed to cover.
Pretty sure that's how the story goes.

I believe THIS is correct.

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