Yeah it doesn't have a terrible flipper gap, poor geometry, linear modes, airballs, cheap drains, or a dangling booger toy. You'd hate it!

Avatar is fast fun and addictive. Tell me why it's not. Main reason I see people not liking Avatar is the theme or the one ramp....and that's fair. Ultimately I sold t because I have similar games I like better. I still think it's an underrated game and fun for what it is.

As for Popeye...you're telling me you wouldn't pick up a nice $1000 Popeye locally just to jam on for a bit? Popeye's my favorite old cartoon character. I got it, shopped it, played it, sold it. It's not a great game but it's not horrible. It has its charm.

Interesting that you brought the two games with an environmental message as examples to insult me. Hmmmm ....

Most of the Popeye complaints come from the fact that it's a widebody from the era of widebodies like STTNG, TZ, RS, JD...games that used that extra space and packed a lot of super cool stuff in there. Popeye is relatively simple in comparison. Plus, many don't like that the upper playfield blocks the view of some scoop shots that you need to make...however, I didn't find that to be a huge deal, as there are inserts aiming toward those shots...shoot the insert path & the shots are made easily. Also, some people don't like the environmental theme, cuz you know....F this planet, right!??! It's not the best, it's not the worst. Any DMD pinball is worth paying $1000 to jam on, whether it's a keeper or not.

Your game, your opinion - I can't take that away from you. Hopefully you can understand why some people have the opposite opinion.

You accused me of trolling the anti-GB thread....this thread seemed trolly...so I was trolling your troll thread. That's really what it was all about. Peace & Love