Quoted from iceman44:If there has been anybody who has been all over and all in on pre orders over the years, starting with JJP and Woz, and a big supporter of new pinball, its me and I've finally realized the following:
The "new guys" need to reach out to other places to find 3rd party funding sources with the appropriate "muscle", and not customer deposits. Why?
NONE of them can keep to a timeline, have ZERO accountability, and simply don't care when it gets done despite promises made, over and over, lie after lie.
If you have a business partner, with "muscle", I guarantee that BS changes and pins are developed and pushed out the door. The "new guy" and "muscle" get paid when the pin is actually FINISHED! i.e. Stern.
I think its bye bye to the pre order model. Never thought I'd say that because I want pin makers to succeed.
Timeline Abusers:
JJP
SkitB
Jpop
Soon to be Abusing the timeline:
DP
Heighway (after Nordman's reveal)
And anybody else making a pin on pre order
I'm with ya Ice. About time pinball makers shoulder the burden of producing a product THEN selling it. Humans been doin' it this way for thousands of years.
NO MORE CHEATING! FIND OTHER SOURCES OF INCOME TO PRODUCE.
Hi, I'm Rick, and I'm a previous preorderer.