Not knowing all the facts of any of these "transgressions", there are right ways and wrong ways to go about handling things in this small world that is the pinball community.

Majoring in the minors is usually not a good thing. License whatever it is, make $5 per logo times 50 pinball covers and make the community happy. Meanwhile, Lincensee can simply pass that cost along.

Again, obviously I don't know all the details, just what I hear and what makes sense to me. Hopefully these things can get worked out.

Something I can actually agree on with you

Such as? What are the potential "damages" and liability?

The Op has every right to state his opinion and Rick and PPS have every right to defend themselves.

I don't know all the facts on either side only the talk and opinions that gets thrown around on here.

It just seems like to me, based on what i hear and see, that maybe there are some bad operators with bad intentions, in the extreme minority and then there are the overwhelming majority simply trying to improve and help the state of pinball, like CCC, that instead of working something out for the benefit of all of pinball, the main effort is to simply shut it down. Again, that is the perception, maybe not the reality. I don't know.

Then it comes down to someone like myself simply wanting to get a Wh20 "logo patch" on my pinball dust cover from another pinsider who must be making millions on selling these He can't make them as he has been threatened to be pulled off of this site. Now hopefully they can come up with a reasonable solution/license.

Which of course, the license fee will be passed on down to the consumer like myself so PPS can make whatever they want to make on it. I just want a dust cover with a logo. Let's go. It's just business and profit if a good thing.

Whether its Jpop, CCC, other code, dust covers etc… this is a small close knit community

Speaking of crazy, go get your $10,500 Ac/dc Bib on Mr. Pinball now, probably even make a cheaper deal!

You should listen to your own advice Tony.

I'm pretty sure WMS is more concerned about their new "Ruby Red 2 Wizard of Oz" slot machines or Willy Wonka than what is going on in the pinball world even though they are making money on the license they granted to PPS back in 2010 based on whatever PPS can market and sell to us.

Exactly, "patience", why are you trying to catch the falling knife

I'm not worried about it, but yeah, it's raining knives! I might try and catch a few myself….

With MMr, when it gets closer and it looks like we'll have a much better and improved MM (in the eyes of most), then all the chatter will turn back to excitement I think.