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Price and play field issues will prevent me from buying any NIB for years.
I also won't pick up anything made in 2015 on.
Gary tried to downplay the whole situation by basically saying "some people have said they had play field concerns, but the formula has been the same, blah blah."
It's a known issue. They won't address it. New stuff still has it. It takes 3 months sometimes to manifest itself.
No way I'd buy a new Stern. I have 5 older ones and they're all great. (Yes even Wrestlemania 
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Quoted from Sticky:The hate storm toward Stern has been brewing for a while. Is the $15k machine you have to get on your knees and beg for Gary's blessing to be able to purchase what finally pushes things to an adjustment point?
Look, it's a small community. It's not a huge hobby. There is a Goliath and a handful of small volume producers. It's recovering and there is interest from younger people (thanks to Pinball Arcade for example) but the entire problem is Stern's attitude.
I never bought a Stern NIB but many of you did. You supported Stern. The lean times indeed were very lean. Now what? You still support Stern and Stern spits on you. They not only spit in your face as a thanks for your business but go so far as having you beg for the permission for them to do so.
Pinball is fun. Right? Right. Show appreciation toward your customers. Support the community. Bring people together. Stern has gone Hollywood and doesn't give a flying F about anything other than the bottom line. That is what is rubbing so many people the wrong way.
Why can't Stern and their fans have a solid, mutually beneficial relationship that is not based on getting fleeced? Why is Stern so insecure that they ban people from their events who do not report things the way they want things reported? It's insane.The pricing we can all deal with as it will adjust on its own. The sheer greed and arrogance is something else is entirely. I hope they fall and fall hard. The competition is getting better even if Stern can't see it over the piles of cash they are making love to at the moment.
The distributor model isolates them from actual buyers. They like it that way. They KEEP it that way. Now they regulate all pricing.
They have distros by the nuggets.
A distributor preorders 20 TFLEs. The game disappoints. They have to sell inventory at a loss eventually.
Next preorder, they try to order 10. Stern says "You want to order LESS? OK, we can give you 5." Distro needs to rep to 20 regardless of title then.
You remove that layer where they need to deal with people and the attitude changes. This won't happen BTW.
Quoted from Jvspin:Some buyers don't think it's that important to play the game because Gomez and Lyman are the designers so it has to be good.
One thing I don't understand, weren't Gomez and Lyman the designers on BDK? If BDK isn't that well regarded, what makes BM66 a slam dunk?
It's much more $$$ so it HAS to be better!
Quoted from Eskaybee:KISS code abandoned
GOT code abandoned
ST code abandoned
XMEN code abandoned
GB code (soon to be) abandoned
2016 playfields disintegrating before owners' eyes.
How many more red flags do you guys need before accepting sterns pinflation???
You abandoned the fact that KISS was abandoned too.
Quoted from jar155:My AC/DC premium has never seen the sort of dimpling that Ghostbusters has. Same goes for my SM, Tron, Iron Man, or TSPP. My LOTR never dimpled so noticeably either. I think there was just a bad run of playfields that was full of soft wood or clearcoat. Hopefully that has passed.
Yeah I know I posted something about Ghostbusters having dimples and was told "all have dimples!" I've never seen them to that extent on my other pens like Ghostbusters and I have five Sterns right now.
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