I kinda wish you kept it a bit longer and took out the flipper assemble from both games to really compared all the bits and pieces. A few MM difference in plunger length or coil stop height can really change the throw of the the flipper. Even better, put in the original mech into the remake for comparison.

Would it be more consistent to grind off a few MM off each plunger? That way there is more travel without bending stuff by eye and a bit easier to get them to mirror each other.

There are a lot of reasons why there are power levels and why it's a good thing. What if your line voltage is a little low/high? Easy adjustment in the service menu. Flippers a little old? Add a little juice before paying for a flipper rebuild. Just rebuilt the flippers and they're too strong? Tweak it down a bit. If you like a low pitch or a high pitch setup, tweak the power a bit to get them where they're at a good power level.

It's an industry wide feature for a reason.

Yes it's on all new games from all major manufacturers as far as I'm aware.

Selecting the right flipper coil strength is different than tweaking the power in the settings. Designers still pick and choose different coils based on how they want the game to play (and then refine it more in software, and then let the user tweak it as they need)

All it takes is some digital calipers and a few measurements, and the mystery is solved

The software changes the initial timing of the power stroke pulse. Fliptronics, and other modern flipper designs, use computer timing to change from power to hold coil (and the EOS is used to detect knockdowns to repulse the flipper back up). Stronger flipper setting = longer initial pulse

The type of coil also matters in power. The biggest change is Fliptronics was (I believe) hardware logic that isn’t adjustable, where as modern controllers can vary this timing for the user to make minor adjustments as needed.

This is laughably wrong.

Why don’t you do this and post the results? You’re the one making the claim

Edit: if anything is changing it’s just the PWM and the timing from power to hold. Although I don’t think the use PWM on dual wound coils

I believe this only applies to single wound coils, which is primarily Stern. Just about everyone else uses dual wound and are adjusting the timing in the settings, or for particular modes like on Oktoberfest.

Rick and Morty shipped with single wound and the people at Spooky have been working hard to get it to feel “right”. It’s really challenging to do single wound flippers controlled by PWM, and even some Stern games still struggle with heat issues after long playing sessions.

PWM is mostly used on single wound flipper coils to my knowledge. On the dual wound flipper coils they don't need to PWM because they have two driving transistors, one for hold and one for power. On these, the time in MS from changing from power to hold is what is being modified. For example, trigger power coil for 35ms then simultaneously switch off and turn on hold.

Single wound coils use a single transistor and PWM to do the power and the hold. I'm not exactly sure how Stern implements their PWM, but it's generally really good. It is something like 50% PWM for 30ms, then 15% PWM while flipper is held. (Just example numbers)

Yes coils get hot. It's not just a Stern issue. But single wound coils are more difficult to manage the heat profile and takes more fine tuning than a dual wound coil designed for this problem. If the hold PWM is too low, the flipper bat is easily knocked down and if it's too high then the coil quickly overheats

I'd love to know why JJP flippers are so different in execution than everyone else. They do heat up quickly and generally have a very unique feel to them.

Heat changes the resistance of the coil, which lowers the power of the electromagnet. I would also theorize the heat also likely causes the nylon sleeve to slightly expand in size which adds additional friction to the plunger, and makes the flipper feel weaker.

And this is all about flipper coils. Regular coils, like pops and slings, are modifying the timing pulse of the one coil fire to activate the device. This is not done through PWM

I don’t think the force of the flippers is the issue, I think people are arguing the throw of the flipper is different.

A protractor could measure this. It would also deal with the issue of some people aligning with the ball guides instead of the flipper alignment hole. Going off a picture in relation to the art is not scientific

Let’s contact that super high speed camera guy and then we can get a great slow motion video

Only mild sarcasm

I don’t think the remakes are PWM controlled. That technique is generally used on single wound coils, like Stern

I believe the remakes are using digital timing to switch from the power to hold, similar to Fliptronics with the difference being the end user can alter the timing (ie higher initial time for the power before switching to hold = more powerful flipper)

I say this mainly because why would they need to use PWM when they have two transistors to handle the job. Stern uses PWM and a single coil because it’s cheaper to build (more complicated to get the “feel” right and balance it with heat issues, but Stern is very experienced at this technique now - although some games still have issues)