Quoted from Flipper_McGavin:

I read a few days ago the CEs are also sold out. Might be difficult to find now, I don't think they made that many Wonkas. I never saw an LE break the 1,000 mark for its serial number, and they were supposed to make 5,000 of them?

Quoted from ZMeny:

Standards were discontinued a couple months back. Hard to find a dealer with some still in inventory
LE are also discontinued and I don’t know of any dealers with any
CEs are also discontinued via email from jjp last week, but some dealers may still have some in their inventory

Quoted from ovfdfireman:

We are sold out of all models as well
Greg
Pinballpro.com

Quoted from DrJoe:

Kind of hilarious all the people that bought a CE in the past week or two. Very strange buying pattern. I guess everyone is assuming JJP can't re-run any games since they can't meet current game demand in a timely fashion.

Quoted from manadams:

Yes it's a thing at least with me.

Quoted from DrJoe:

I understand this, but I wouldn't assume JJP is not going to re-run games at different times. Maybe they will, maybe they won't, but they certainly didn't come out and say they won't. Also, I wouldn't call the a "very small" company like say Spooky (who is small by design). Who's to say JJP doesn't ramp up the production numbers? I'm sure they want to sell all the games they can.
What I found hilarious is the fact that Wonka's been out for what, 2 years? And everyone jumped on it this past week when rumors of "it's out of stock!!!" started flying and then they all of the sudden had to have it. Definitely good for distros with dusty stock as people fight for all the CEs that were still out there.

Quoted from Thunderbird:

Good points. However, JJP has been going as a company for nearly 12 years now and still a tiny company. So don’t think much is going to change as far as that goes. FOMO is what is driving sales for all companies at present. Judging by JJP history and the fact that they only have 2 designers and their past history, they are going to stay a tiny company for the foreseeable future. It would take an enormous investment by the new owners to ramp it much further.
If JJP were to create more games and have many versions like they’ve done with WOZ and Hobbit, FOMO will not be a factor and sales will stagnate like they have in the past for JJP. Remember, POTC wasn’t selling well at all until they announced they would not make it any further, because no one wanted it. I was at a big show presentation that Jack gave and he asked for a show of hands in a full room of people, how many were going to buy POTC? Only one person raised their hand.
The same is true for Wonka, few wanted it, till it was understood no more are being made. By pinball numbers terms, all JJP games have been quite dismal sales wise. Only WOZ which was so much lower in price $6500 has ever had any sales numbers of any significance. GNR had the scalpers out in force, hence the CE’s being snapped up, since they didn’t want to miss out, like they did on POTC. There is going to be a glut of GNR’s for sale in the future, after the honeymoon is over and people want to move onto the new shiny.

Quoted from Oneangrymo:

Haha ow my balls , isn’t that from idiocracy ?

Quoted from DrJoe:

The hilarity, from my perspective, is the group-think behavior. Nobody was chasing the game two weeks ago. The game hasn’t changed with a code drop or whatnot since then. All of the sudden, everyone wants it, even if it means paying $12k+ for CEs! Just because others want it. Yep, hilarious.

Quoted from Elvishasleft:

The group think really starts when it was launched.... the bitchfest on here was strong.
People just wrote if off based on other peoples opinions and the miles of complaints about playfield issues.
Turns out Wonka is their best playing game... whooops.
The backlog of negative commenting on it (mainly from people who never played the fucking thing) was so strong that for the last year when I talked up the game people thought I was nuts.

Quoted from Shapeshifter:

Too funny.
I so want this game, now that I can't get it!
If JJP announced they were making another 1000 in the next week or two, the bubble would go pop!

Quoted from Guinnesstime:

Way less code, but is more approachable to many more. Casual players like to bash things not hit flowing shots w/complex rules.

Quoted from Guinnesstime:

Nah not better but different. It's hard to argue with a game that's not a shooter or half the game of a Wonka.

Quoted from Gribbs:

Since there is SO much speculation as to why people are buying Wonka and Dialed In 'suddenly', I can at least offer my personal reasons as a player/collector.
I have a buddy whose opinion on game I trust quite a bit. He likes games with great shots, some flow and depth of rules/modes. He has been talking both of these games up (and JJP games, in general) for quite a while. I get first 'dibs' on his games when he is done with them, and two weeks ago he mentioned that his Wonka and Dialed In were never leaving his collection. That got my attention, so I started looking around, and I decided to go NIB from JJP (they had a few Wonka CEs left), even though I have been avoiding newer games due to play field issues. We LOVE the game. My wife and step-son have been playing, and even my step-daughter and her boyfriend have shown interest. LOVE it.
Well, after JJP quickly sold out of Wonka CEs, and I started to read about a run on the title in general, I felt like I got in just in time. SO...that got me thinking about securing a Dialed In...again, a game I was ALWAYS going to get, at some point, but loving my Wonka CE so much and seeing what was going on, I happened to find a DI CE NIB yesterday, and then came on Pinside to see people talking about a possible run on THOSE. So, do I count as a "I just have such deep pockets, and I HAD to have them just because of FOMO even though I don't care bout the titles", or did I start to see the writing on the wall as far as both of these titles I wanted because of reputation becoming harder to find NIB, so I pulled the trigger? It is the latter.
Yes, I paid NIB CE prices for both, but since I expect them to both be in my collection for a LONG time, I am very happy. So, I don't know what other peoples' stories are, but that was the reason for 2 JJP NIB sales this past two weeks.

Quoted from Grindle3:

I currently have 28 CE models in stock at classicgamerooms.com. We are not price gouging like some dealers.

Quoted from Northstar1976:

What do we think about price for CE ahead? I think JJP did NOT sell all 5000 LE and 500CE, and they will do a rerun after GnR demand is met.

Quoted from JohnTTwo:

I am looking forward to the CE price once they are sold out? What is your guess?
17,500?

Quoted from nicoy3k:

One is on the market for 11500 right now.

Quoted from Deez:

If you're going to get a topper I'd order one before they sell out. I just got mine and it's incredible. I'm so happy with it.
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Quoted from estrader:

Thinking about picking one of these up but have a couple questions for you guys who have recently purchased one.
1. Is there chipping under the sling post or did jjp put some type of washer under them?
2. Any problems out of the box besides a couple of rails being damaged? How much time did it take you to dial it in?
3. With how deep the game is do your children have trouble understanding the goals to progress in the game? (my kids are all under the age of 8 )
I appreciate any feedback....Thank you

Quoted from zaphX:

Hey glad you liked it! You might also like the followup deep dive on Kid Multiball and the various jackpots needed to get the ticket.

Quoted from Tdavis7965:

1. No chipping, no washer for the metal posts. I do have minor pooling on the lower slings around the upper metal posts - Looks like the posts are at a very slight angle that cause some pooling on that side... trying to decide to file a claim in case it starts chipping at some point. Star posts seem ok.
2. My backbox is showing some dried “glue” or
Something at the top where the side connect to the top. I have cleaned up pretty well but thought was kind of sloppy work, not sure if anyone else had this issue? Also, be careful with the left side blade, the playfield is too tight that it will cause damage when you raise, I have ordered some protectors mentioned in this thread and may see about getting a new left blade. I slightly increased the flippers to my liking and dialed back the ball ejector. I may also add some lighting as the game is pretty dark compared to my GNR.
3. Kids love the game with or without the rules... I think this one will stay for a long time as we all have smiles while playing

Quoted from zaphX:

Skip to 8 mins or so, I had some audio problems in the secondary views when I started it

Quoted from TheLaw:

It's not even a crusade, its just a fault in the flagging system. People use it just like giving a thumbs down.

Quoted from TheLaw:

No idea. My JP review gets 4 flag for not blowing loads all over it; stupid.

Quoted from nicoy3k:

No difference in quality between stern and JJP

Quoted from DaddyManD:

It also comes with adjustable outlane posts. We inserted our posts because otherwise we'd all be frustrated including our kids. But we have all of the modes set to factory so its a challenge to progress through. It feels appropriately difficult to get to the wizard modes. For HUO, I couldn't think of a better game. It combines depth, strategy, and challenge and the most amazing set up shots from the magnet at the upper left flipper to the diverter on left ramp to the saucer setting up the shots from upper right flipper. This is our favorite game in my home including my wife.

Quoted from Tuna_Delight:

It appears to be quickly approaching that point. Classic Game Rooms and Coin Taker no longer have any listed online (including eBay).
I purchased the second to last CE today that Pinball Pirate has. They have one LE as well, but it is out of box.
Orange County Pinball still showing CE on its website for a mere $15K.
No doubt, just a matter of time before that's gone too.