Quoted from CaptainNeo:why must you only buy NIB? Expand your horizons. Buy a non working early SS bally or williams. Learn to get it going. Find one for $200-400. put time and effort in cleaning. Fixing. Restoring. By the time you are done. You have a nice working and playing game for $500. Many early SS games are fun as all shit. My atlantis and my alien poker, I have $500 invested in both. Many say they are the nicest they have ever seen or played. Having a nice playing example is the key to enjoying the experience. Games you may have dis'd before because they played like shit, you will find 10x's more enjoyable when you play a nice example, that is playing correctly and leveled correctly. With nice warm white LED's or natural bulbs.
OMG that’s sounds like sooo much work 
not the way I wanted to go as I didn’t need a project I have so may of those and a couple of teenagers to boot....I just wanted to play, out of the box...and for warranty I could call a guy to come and fix it
Having read and researched about all the pins I am buying I’ve documented settings, tricks and tips, mods and addons....and let me just say wow...what a trip , and happy to be here... to absorb all the great knowledge...I needed a new hobby and loved pinball in my teens and have pages of things I want to try when my pins arrive...now that I can afford to buy new with the exception of a twilight zone that I am hoping to be completely modded and jacked up with leds, DMD etc....all new pins for me....why...because I don’t want to do any up front diagnostics on old tech or pins I want to get a base line on new tech...and actually get an appreciation for what I like, what works and what doesn’t...I’ve also playing a lot of pinball these past 9 months, and actually enjoy and love the commitment both time and money people have put into the hobby it’s awesome...
Back on topic I have to agree this hobby while expensive is not a placeholder to something better...when I was 16 I wanted to buy my first pinball...CDN in 1989 was 3500....used at the arcade I use to goto...bought a car instead....glad I did that
Today is no different as choices abound for where I can spend my money, same for everyone here and the fact that there are typically price point choices that can be had there is no barrier to entry at all, can’t afford super duper premium...ok buy a pro and mod the shit out of it till you get to where you need to....Adding there is huge uptake...when I told friends and coworkers what I was up to and what’s being delivered to my house without exception everyone has genuinely been excited and want to come over when ready Whole bunch of us all reliving our youth on cool and exciting themes, evolved technology, and repurposing of what works and a little experimentation are creating new memories...what’s not to love and a small price to pay to get into something wildly entertaining where we aren’t all at the bar staring at our phones or the next hot blonde who walks in...although that’s fun too...have to say though big thank you to everyone on the forum for what is turning out to be a blast...
