High Speed
Williams, 1986Here is the description on the listing.
"Great shape, rebuilt, well-maintained. Includes spare parts and manual."
I am waiting to receive more pics on this machine. With the single photo and the description, I feel like this machine is over priced, right?
What would you value it at with the current info?
Thanks in advance!
image.jpgI wouldn't buy a hs2 for that much let alone a hs1. You can find one cheaper. They're around. Or just convince this guy what it's really worth. No pics, not turned on, no close ups or info...I can only imagine some of the craigslist comments he must be getting from guys trying to beat him up right now.
Based on what info you have provided, it's not worth more than $500 which is the "safe" number for me to part out a machine. You need to assume worst case if you're buying sight unseen. Could have a trashed playfield, water damage, destroyed boards...
But on the other hand, it's worth going to look at. You never know when you find a jewel that's a one owner mint huo machine that's been forgotten about for decades....
I bought my HS that has a 9 out of 10 cabinet, everything working with a little playfield wear on the kickback outline (which is common) for $900. Now it is getting a CPR playfield and still, I wouldn't ask that much for it, if, and I said "if" I ever sell. WARNING STAY AWAY FROM THAT ONE!
Another 'no' vote here.....They do pop up on pinside for much less and you have a much better idea of what you are getting and from who.
No way. I would go with a nice getaway in the 2000-2400 range. HS maybe 1000-1400.
Quoted from LordCrom:Here is the description on the listing.
"Great shape, rebuilt, well-maintained. Includes spare parts and manual."
I am waiting to receive more pics on this machine. With the single photo and the description, I feel like this machine is over priced, right?
What would you value it at with the current info?
Thanks in advance!image.jpg 24 KB
I don't even need to see a picture. IMHO, no High Speed is worth $2750 in any condition.
Thank the seller for the pics and video. But politely decline. If they ask why, just say you've done some research now and have found that the price is about $1500-$2000 to high.
*UPDATE*
Went out to look at the machine. There is a chip taking out of the top right side of the back box. Its probably about 2 inches by 2 inches and about 1/8th of an inch deep. It has been spot painted black. The playfield is lightly faded. There is a warped playfield piece just above the left flipper. It has mylar on the playfield. There are some minor marks to both sides of the cabinet. Only one light bulb out that I saw.
The pin was powered up, but the start button didn't initiate a game. He said he is going to correct it and will ask me back out to play it if I so desire.
He says he has owned the machine for 24 years. He has the original manual and what looked like a purchase receipt that I did not get to look at. I don't believe he is the original owner, but one of very few possibly. We didn't discuss price yet, but he said that when he looked around online, he saw them listed for anywhere from $750-$5000.
What are your thoughts? How much would you offer?
Just got the text, he says he has it fixed, going to be heading back out there to take a look at it again soon.
$650-$1000 depending on condition.
How something is LISTED and what it SELLS FOR are two different numbers.
-mof
*Final update*
Okay, went out and looked at the pin again, was able to play it. The pin is not properly leveled so it plays slow. He has it set to 5 balls and kickback is always lit.
There was small playfield wear around the top right corner. he had mentioned that the batteries had corroded onto the board in the back box, but he appeared to have cleaned it pretty well, I was not able to tell. Holes had been filled where there had been a lock bar installed before and painted over.
I started with an offer of $650. He looked at me as though I was from another planet. Again, his asking price is $2750. I asked him if he wanted to throw me a counter offer. He said, "Not when the divide is that far." I attempted one last stab at $800 and you could see he wasn't remotely interested if the offer was going to be so low.
He isn't a pinhead. He's owned this one pin for 24 years. He's done a little looking online and I believe he believes he can get an offer significantly closer to what he is asking for. He doesn't understand the true value of his pin.
Quoted from LordCrom:*Final update*
Okay, went out and looked at the pin again, was able to play it. The pin is not properly leveled so it plays slow. He has it set to 5 balls and kickback is always lit.
There was small playfield wear around the top right corner. he had mentioned that the batteries had corroded onto the board in the back box, but he appeared to have cleaned it pretty well, I was not able to tell. Holes had been filled where there had been a lock bar installed before and painted over.
I started with an offer of $650. He looked at me as though I was from another planet. Again, his asking price is $2750. I asked him if he wanted to throw me a counter offer. He said, "Not when the divide is that far." I attempted one last stab at $800 and you could see he wasn't remotely interested if the offer was going to be so low.
He isn't a pinhead. He's owned this one pin for 24 years. He's done a little looking online and I believe he believes he can get an offer significantly closer to what he is asking for. He doesn't understand the true value of his pin.
Welcome to the hobby.
-mof
Quoted from LordCrom:He's done a little looking online and I believe he believes he can get an offer significantly closer to what he is asking for.
Definately pass on this. and good luck to him getting even close to what hes asking.
sounds like it has many issues. who says hes had it for 24years? he could just be flipping it.
you'll find a better one on here, at a much less cost.
wonder what under the playfield looks like.
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