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Is this Data East CPU usable?

By SilverballSleuth

3 years ago


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    #1 3 years ago

    I have a spare Data East CPU, untested, but might be better than what’s in my game minus this absurd chalky section in the back. Is this fixable? The traces still kinda seem there.

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    #2 3 years ago

    I would not touch it

    #3 3 years ago
    Quoted from cpr9999:

    I would not touch it

    You think a pro board tech might have a shot?

    #4 3 years ago
    Quoted from SilverballSleuth:

    You think a pro board tech might have a shot?

    No, I don't think so

    #5 3 years ago
    Quoted from DK:

    No, I don't think so

    Bummer. Thanks guys.

    #6 3 years ago

    Sprayed with alcohol still looks pretty rough, but better. Might try it for kicks if nothing else. Rest of the board looks GREAT.

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    #7 3 years ago

    How about the other side of the board? I think you would need to desolder and resolder those solder joints.

    #8 3 years ago

    Looks like there maybe a possible short at the top center of the picture. A leg bent over to the pad next to it.

    #9 3 years ago

    Do you have good continuity between pins whose trace goes through there? If so, I wouldn't worry about that damage much. It's not like the condition of the pcb really affects the functioning of the circuit.

    I'd be more worried about if the components are good, and what caused the damage

    #10 3 years ago

    Problem with continuity test is it might be good, but then you “shake” play the machine and you might get a frustrating intermittent connection.

    You could use small wire wound wire and solder wire between each connection to guarantee connection.

    Way more work than worth it - get a better used version.

    #11 3 years ago

    Not sure if these are shorts OR they were done on purpose?

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    #12 3 years ago
    Quoted from cpr9999:

    Not sure if these are shorts OR they were done on purpose?
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    If this is the cleaned image, you are seeing paper towels specks. The one at the top is a bent leg.

    #13 3 years ago

    This part of the board usually (almost always in every board I have seen) has excessive heat exposure. Those 27 Ohm resistors heat up so that they are hot to the touch within one minute of power on.

    As long as the board is electrically correct there is no reason it should not work. If you are keen to use this board and want to prevent further heat damage you should apply the "MOSFET modification".

    https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Data_East/Sega#Using_MOSFETs_in_the_Lamp_Matrix_Circuitry
    https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Williams_System_9_-_11#Using_MOSFETs_in_the_Lamp_Matrix_Circuitry

    Williams System 11 CPU boards have the same problem. I don't have a heat camera image of the original TIP42 components. I only have an image with the MOSFET modification. The hot spot is in the lamp rows not the lamp columns.

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    #14 3 years ago
    Quoted from DumbAss:

    This part of the board usually (almost always in every board I have seen) has excessive heat exposure. Those 27 Ohm resistors heat up so that they are hot to the touch within one minute of power on.
    As long as the board is electrically correct there is no reason it should not work. If you are keen to use this board and want to prevent further heat damage you should apply the "MOSFET modification".
    https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Data_East/Sega#Using_MOSFETs_in_the_Lamp_Matrix_Circuitry
    https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Williams_System_9_-_11#Using_MOSFETs_in_the_Lamp_Matrix_Circuitry
    Williams System 11 CPU boards have the same problem. I don't have a heat camera image of the original TIP42 components. I only have an image with the MOSFET modification. The hot spot is in the lamp rows not the lamp columns.
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