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Is this a Defect in my DMD on my Metallica LE?

By Pinballpal

10 years ago


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#1 10 years ago

I was updating my code on my Metallica LE and I noticed this black line in the progress bar do I have a defectective DMD?

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#2 10 years ago

Looks pretty standard to me. The LED DMD's sometimes have that weird kinda spacing.

#3 10 years ago

The grids are normal.

#4 10 years ago

yep. if you take a close look at your DMD, you'll notice that the "pixels" are all groups of 16x16 blocks. when they are assembled and wave soldered, some of the blocks shift a bit and as a result the spacing between every "dot" isn't uniform.

it's more noticeable when there's a bigger gap than normal between 2 blocks, but there's nothing you can really do about it.

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#5 10 years ago

Do you think stern will send me a replacement?

#6 10 years ago

No, as we have all said, there is nothing wrong with it.

#7 10 years ago

It is pretty standard for a DMD, but if you don't like it, give em a call.

The worst they are gonna do, is say no.

#8 10 years ago

Standard DMD - Keep it you never know what box of problems you could get if you get a new one. (my replacement was not so good)

#9 10 years ago
Quoted from flashburn:

No, as we have all said, there is nothing wrong with it.

+1000000

#10 10 years ago

If it bothers you, your best option is probably to wait until ColorDMD releases the SIGMA displays for Stern machines. With those, there are no grid lines, and you'll be able to choose what color you want it to be.

I've heard that some people have gently shifted the LED blocks around until they are aligned perfectly. That sounds like a lot of work with risk of damaging the display for minimal gain. My MET display is much worse than that one.

#11 10 years ago

So it is just the nature of the beast I guess . Thanks for all the input as always.

#12 10 years ago
Quoted from herg:

I've heard that some people have gently shifted the LED blocks around until they are aligned perfectly. That sounds like a lot of work with risk of damaging the display for minimal gain. My MET display is much worse than that one.

Where have you heard this? Are the blocks attached to the board via pins? Even with alignment corrections the space between the modules is different than the space between pixels of the same module right?

#13 10 years ago
Quoted from Crash:

Where have you heard this? Are the blocks attached to the board via pins? Even with alignment corrections the space between the modules is different than the space between pixels of the same module right?

I believe the blocks are similar to the 8x8 in this link and are 16 pins:

http://www.futurlec.com/LEDMatrix.shtml

#14 10 years ago

I'm surprised you even seen this...wow!

#15 10 years ago
Quoted from Pinballerchef:

I'm surprised you even seen this...wow!

My eye for detail is crazy its a curse and gift at the same time.

#16 10 years ago
Quoted from herg:

If it bothers you, your best option is probably to wait until ColorDMD releases the SIGMA displays for Stern machines. With those, there are no grid lines, and you'll be able to choose what color you want it to be.
I've heard that some people have gently shifted the LED blocks around until they are aligned perfectly. That sounds like a lot of work with risk of damaging the display for minimal gain. My MET display is much worse than that one.

Or wait for Homepins new LED DMDs which are all made as one unit (ie no grid lines)

Homepin told me yesterday they aren't too far away.

rd.

#17 10 years ago
Quoted from Pinballpal:

My eye for detail is crazy its a curse and gift at the same time.

I know how you feel.
Im the same with eveyrthing I build and it can drive me bonkers!

#18 10 years ago
Quoted from Pinballpal:

My eye for detail is crazy its a curse and gift at the same time.

Eye for detail???? What detail did you point out? You thought it was a defect,,,, no pointing out the detail there, Just misjudging something.

#19 10 years ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Or wait for Homepins new LED DMDs which are all made as one unit (ie no grid lines)
Homepin told me yesterday they aren't too far away.
rd.

HomePin is one big joke wagon. Will not be buying anything from them.

#20 10 years ago
Quoted from Crash:

HomePin is one big joke wagon. Will not be buying anything from them.

Homepin - specialists in customer service / threats / calling people idiots:

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will be the loser in the end as many suppliers will not deal with you.

If I have any further trouble with the minority of idiots who
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it difficult for some overseas enthusiasts to get a part that may not be
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I guess the bottom line is if you don't trust me and suspect I won't
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#21 10 years ago
Quoted from DCFAN:

I believe the blocks are similar to the 8x8 in this link and are 16 pins:
http://www.futurlec.com/LEDMatrix.shtml

Those do look like the same blocks, and looking at the datasheet, the spacing would line up consistently if all the blocks were pressed against each other.

Quoted from rotordave:

Or wait for Homepins new LED DMDs which are all made as one unit (ie no grid lines)
Homepin told me yesterday they aren't too far away.
rd.

I personally would still go with ColorDMD and hope that a multicolor ROM would be available in the future.

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