i had sttng. beautiful game and I had it tuned up nice but it's gone. not quite sure what it was, we just ended up avoiding playing it after a few months. shadow and bsd are the longest lasting games in my collection and it will likely remain that way. thats one thing i love about this hobby. you buy it, you dont like it, somebody else will want it. if you do your homework and tune it up nice you usually don't lose too much, if any $.