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Is the pinball market about to collapse?

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    #764 4 years ago
    Quoted from tiltmonster:

    I usually don’t like to get involved in these types of threads as they always seem to turn pollical but comparing the USA to Italy is like comparing apples to oranges. Italy has a much older population...

    From the link you posted:
    https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Italy/United-States/People

    Population aged 65 or over
    Italy: 17.96 million
    USA: 123.43 million 7 times more than Italy

    Population aged 80 or over
    Italy: 8.96 million
    USA: 51.64 million 6 times more than Italy

    How am I interpreting that data incorrectly? In what way does "Italy have a much older population"?!

    Here's additional stats that aren't in the US's favor:

    Physicians density
    Italy: 3.8 physicians/1,000 population 57% more than United States
    USA: 2.42 physicians/1,000 population

    Hospital bed density
    Italy: 3.5 beds/1,000 population 17% more than United States
    USA: 3 beds/1,000 population

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    #766 4 years ago
    Quoted from tiltmonster:

    Not my data, I do not make the statics
    49.61 years Ranked 28th. 12% more than United States 44.38 years
    Ranked 117th.

    The US has 5 times the population of Italy. Go back and read the stats I copied and pasted from the URL you linked to, and try to explain to me how Italy has more people "over the age of 65" and/or "over the age of 80" than the US, because that doesn't appear to be the case.

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    #770 4 years ago
    Quoted from Methos:The US Census Bureau and the US Department of Health and Human Services has very different numbers than you show. If we use that data as a comparison, Italy is almost double the US in >65 as a %.
    https://www.census.gov/newsroom/facts-for-features/2017/cb17-ff08.html
    https://acl.gov/sites/default/files/Aging%20and%20Disability%20in%20America/2017OlderAmericansProfile.pdf
    I really don't know which #s are accurate to be honest though.

    Yeah, I don't know which numbers are accurate either. I'm just going off the data tables in the link he provided. I did a double take when I saw 123 million listed under "65 and older", because another page on the same site has this data from 2020:

    Number of people 65 years old and older.
    1) China 167.69 million
    2) India 85.21 million
    3) United States 55.94 million
    4) Japan 35.88 million
    5) Russia 20.73 million
    6) Brazil 20.14 million
    7) Germany 18.9 million
    Indonesia 17 million
    9) Italy 14.02 million
    10) France 13.54 million
    11) United Kingdom 12.39 million

    https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/People/Age-distribution/Population-aged-65-or-over/Total

    It's possible the data in the nicely formed "comparison" table is messed up.

    #772 4 years ago
    Quoted from tiltmonster:

    I'm not trying to argue and I don't mean to sound rude but you're a perfect example of why I usually stay away from these threads. Italy has an older population, Ranked 28th, 12% more than United States. Please stay healthy and take care of your family.

    You said comparing Italy to the US was like comparing "apples to oranges" and cited "Italy has a much older population" that the US.

    I asked you why the "average age" percent mattered, because when it comes down to it, the US has both a larger population and a larger ACTUAL number of people older than 65.

    All of that with fewer beds and fewer physicians.

    (Based on the link you posted, if you have another link with better data, please post it).

    The way I see it, given the same exponential growth of the virus, we're statistically worse off than Italy.

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