You ain’t been properly tipped until you get a gratuity from beelzeboob

Reminds me of when I accidentally asked a walmart cashier how she was doing..

She replied: "How do you think? I'm working at Walmart".

This discussion makes my head hurt. You’re paying people with no education and prior experience MORE than they make working food service. You also think people don’t always need to make enough money to support themselves…yet your company is paying people presumably with the same background as a Five Guys employee MORE than Five Guys. Is it just that you think your job is better than that type of job? Why not pay less to the interns or offer an unpaid internship? I feel like you’re slowly making my argument for me…

At least her sense of humor is still intact. In a year or so Walmart will pulverize that out of her.

Maybe add a poll
Tip is earned
Tip is a given

I'll tip generously at restaurants and bars because that's the current way our system is setup, for better or for worse. I will resist any attempts to move tipping into other transactions. If you think your service or product is worth whatever, then price it at that amount and let me decide if I think it's worth it. Don't bait and switch me with a "regular" price then suddenly ask for another 20% while I'm checking out.

I also don't feel anyone is trapped into needing tips to survive. If you think you're not making enough money, there are other jobs. Enhance your skills, market yourself, make yourself valuable so that someone is willing to pay you the money you think you deserve. Oftentimes the servers I run into can barely take an order correctly and are slow and completely unmotivated.. why should I pay extra for that?

Tipping is definitely one thing the rest of the world (non-US) gets right.

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If one can afford to eat out at restaurants or buy coffee at Starbucks don't be a tightwad and skimp on the tip as you then go home to order a 10K NIB. Good grief

I worked at a McDonalds for a long time (starting at $2.35 an hour), but none of us were trying to use that job as a way to support a family.

The real problem is that all the mid-level manufacturing jobs (that you could get without a college degree) no longer exist. So now those without a higher education are left with what used to be "kids" jobs - but now they are having to make a real living off of it.

I only tip if you're serving me directly or delivering it to me. Period. I'm not tipping you to do your job and no amount of shaming will change that.

I had a similar ish situation one time. I was on a country road and the car in front of me put their hazards on and pulled to the shoulder. I slowed down as I came up to ask if they had an issue and they aggressively waved me on and flipped me off haha

You may or may not be a grumpy old man, and I could sum it up in 1 sentence, but I would get moderated at the least. Suffice to say you are correct. "They have perverted everything". That is all I can say without reproach. That quotation may solicit reproach!

If I sit down somewhere and receive actual service, I tip based on the quality on the service and I tip well for great service. If I get a delivery I tip based on them doing an extra service to deliver my food. I do not tip when I order to go or order at a cash register and get handed my food. Piss on that. The give a tip for literally anything these days I just ignore and go right on about my day. I don't feel bad about it and I don't care. The principle of tipping is based on you providing me something that is worth it.

That's why I started tipping (in cash) when getting fast food in the drive-thru lane at places like Steak n Shake during Covid.

Last month I tipped the two guys who delivered and installed a new washing machine a twenty (told them to have lunch on me) when they stacked my existing dryer on top of the new washer (both front-loading machines). I think most people feel good when they choose to tip, but not when it seems to be demanded of them.

Question: How do any of you feel about tipping cows? (I am personally against it.)

Question: Is tipping your hat (as a sign of recognition or respect) a forgotten practice?

Another stupid thread. How does this relate to pinball?

I've always wondered when tipping via card and now with the point-of-sale ask, how is the collection distributed. When I tip with cash at the grocery pickup or at the Hair Lottery, I'm very confident that the worker gets 100% of the tip and I know for sure it is appreciated. When placing my order on the computer at the Taco Rock and answering the automated tip question, who's in on the payout? Is the merchant taking some? I dunno, but to me tipping a person seems much more authentic than tipping a computer.

-Rob
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As a paperboy, you worked for tips. You were not expected to tip, and I was only allowed to ask for what you owed. If you gave me something for extra effort, such as making sure the paper was always dry, in the door, and on time, I appreciated it, but if I really wanted a better job, I'm afraid there were no other jobs offered a 15 year old boy at the time. I wasn't even making minimum wage, and newspapers had grandfathered in paperboys as independant contractors, buying papers at wholesale, and reselling at retail. If it wasn't for tips, I would have been working for pennys on dollars. Not everyone tipped, and those that did expected better service and I literally delivered it based on the level of their tips... the highest tippers got their papers delivered first by me on bike, then I finished walking the remainder of my route. I had 88 daily customers and 146 Sunday customers and about 40 that took Sunday and Wednesdays only. When I "purchased" the route from the guy who had it before me, I was expecting to make as much as he did. I started out making much less. Turns out he was the most dishonest paperboy they had ever had. He was double collecting and short changing customers all the time. He would collect from the husband and come back two days later in the morning on Saturday while husband was working overtime and collect again from the wife. People would hand him a $10 and he would give them change for a $5... people got the idea I was an honest paperboy, and then the tips started to flow for real. By the time I sold my route to the next sucker, I was making more than the old paperboy by being honest and hardworking. I always tip for a service well provided and when being served. If I am carrying my own food, or goods, then no tip. Its that easy.

These type of posts never end well.

You are in an off topic thread, wake up Francis...

Just curious if you are a bar? If so, how well are you paying your employees?

These type of posts never end well and we all know it

Half those electronic tips don't even go to the employees, it's just the company skimming more money

Inflation goes up, prices go up, minimum wage doesnt -> employees need bigger tips to make rent, customer gets shafted twice

A local restraunt started sneaking in(without notice) a mandatory tip for the cooks and it has created some backlash. Many people have boycotted the place for the shady practice. I have tipped the chef before at places that have an optional spot on the bill for that but I'll be damned if I pay one that you sneak in. They've also been taking a beating for it online I'm sure the couple hundred dollars they save a week scamming customers has cost them far more in sales.

I just eat at home now, Ramen noodle for lunch and dinner. Im still 40 lbs over weight, but at least I got those dollars in my pocket!

Average restaurant menu prices increased about 6% each of last two years. It seems that typical requested tips increased from 18% to 22%.

That means in past two years the tips increased about 1.06^2 * .22/.18 = 1.37%. I don’t think a lot of other professions got a 37% increase last two years. We can each decide for ourselves whether we think it’s deserved.

FWIW…daughter just graduated with a 4 year degree and ~3.9 gpa in Dec and realizes she can make more waitressing than getting an office job. So now the privileged are stealing the less privileges jobs!!!!

The level of greed in this country is what is currently out of control.

In what way? That statement can mean several different things...

That’s probably true for most tippers and tippees

I worked at Hardees when I was 15, for more than minimum wage. I'd looked at paper delivery years earlier and decided it wasn't worth the money. YMMV.

Yep, this is the bullshit I was talking about in earlier post. If you need to pay your employees more, then raise your damn prices. Don't pull sneaky garbage like this.

Good old Judge Smails

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I always tip the beer guy who loads cases in my car at the drive thru beer store. Not required but they bust their ass.

Which school?

Why shouldn’t it?

Major pac-12 school. I suspect her current decision is based on a number of reasons…but the ‘I can make more as a waitress’ is currently at least a convenient excuse.

Well, $29K plus tips.....

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i live in the bahamas part of the year. 10% VAT and 20% automatic tip when eating out.

i’m glad to pay only 15% here

I tip like a rock star.

Here's a one that gets some back and forth. If you go pickup a pizza there will often be a tip jar and if you pay by credit card there will be a tip line. What should you do? No one is directly serving you as at a restaurant and the workers are not being paid based off tips. This is an example where I find tipping to be out of control a bit, especially when many of these places are now charging $20+ for a large pizza + a credit card fee in some cases.

That’s because you ARE a rockstar.

I'm a 1%er, I tip everybody.

Here is an example of being a tightwad, don’t be this guy

Not from these tightwads by the sound of it .

So are you tipping then at Taco Bell, the grocery store at checkout, etc?

I don’t eat at garbage places …. But your scenario if you are even considering not tipping, makes you a tightwad, true story

Candidate for humble brag of the quarter right here.

Nonsense. I've left 50% tips or more for great service. Places try to guilt you into tipping now when they do not provide a service that demands a tip.

Worlds are colliding! Me and panzer have some common ground.

Lol oh sorry, Taco Bell isn't good enough for you! Hey if I have cash me I'll happily put $1 into tip jar at my favorite local pizza place. Having a tip line though on a carry out receipt? Some people will see that as being forced to tip.