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I think it belongs in the discussion. I might personally say it belongs somewhere in the top 10 all time. I don't know if I could ever decide on the true "best" toy of all time, because as a lot of Pinsiders noted above, there's been so many great playfield toys made since the early 90's.
Quoted from Rum-Z:I think it belongs in the discussion. I might personally say it belongs somewhere in the top 10 all time. I don't know if I could ever decide on the true "best" toy of all time, because as a lot of Pinsiders noted above, there's been so many great playfield toys made since the early 90's.
Yep there are so many good ones over the years ...especially in the 90s.
I honestly don't think it is the best toy on a Jurassic Park table. I prefer the Data East T-rex over it .... I own both machines and while the Stern is far-and-away the better table... the T-rex on the Data East has it beat.
Other things that have it beat
the Castle on MM
Boxer on Champions Pub
Rudy
and like someone else said.. there are a bunch from the 90's that are super cool.
Now if the question was "is it the best toy STERN has used" - that is probably a yes.
Agree with the other comments about awesome toys. I would also add the JJPPOTC rocking mini playfield with a cannon that fires across the playfield as being up there. In my opinion, the whole upper playfield is a toy.
Quoted from NC_Pin:I honestly don't think it is the best toy on a Jurassic Park table. I prefer the Data East T-rex over it .... I own both machines and while the Stern is far-and-away the better table... the T-rex on the Data East has it beat.
Other things that have it beat
the Castle on MM
Boxer on Champions Pub
Rudy
and like someone else said.. there are a bunch from the 90's that are super cool.
Now if the question was "is it the best toy STERN has used" - that is probably a yes.
Rudy
Buzz and Bud
Good toy but not really critical to gameplay. Don't miss it at all playing the pro. +1 for Rudy being the best. It's a big part of gameplay and lots of functionality. Same for MM castle and Dr Who time expander. Those games would be completely different without those features.
Rudy as a total package might be my number one. T-Rex does more ball manipulation, but Rudy's trash-talking personality is hard to beat. Funhouse is on the short list of games that non-pinheads mention when they find out I'm into pinball. "Oh, I hate that game with the dummy! I mean, I love it, but I just wanna bash his face in!" Exactly. The eye movements, snoring, ball-spitting, etc. Just a perfectly theme-integrated, ball interactive toy. Only slight knock against Rudy is the playfield layout makes it hard for casual players to hit him.
MM castle is up there too. That's probably my top three: Rudy, castle, T-rex.
The stage on Pinball Magic is definitely one of the top if not THE top but it never gets talked about. The wand is also really bad ass. Both more inventive and awesome than the overwhelming majority of toys in pinball
Totally blows the stupid trunk in TOM out of the water
Quoted from jawjaw:Good toy but not really critical to gameplay. Don't miss it at all playing the pro. +1 for Rudy being the best. It's a big part of gameplay and lots of functionality. Same for MM castle and Dr Who time expander. Those games would be completely different without those features.
Are any toys "critical to gameplay"?
I think the Rex makes a HUGE difference and adds to the "moment" of the shots.
Quoted from J-Freeze:Are any toys "critical to gameplay"?
The bell on ACDC Premium is one of my favorite toys that is critical to gameplay. Just the fact that you need to wait for it to settle down before hitting it again makes a huge difference in gameplay. Plus it fits the theme perfectly and is really satisfying to hit.
Quoted from MikeS:The bell on ACDC Premium is one of my favorite toys that is critical to gameplay. Just the fact that you need to wait for it to settle down before hitting it again makes a huge difference in gameplay. Plus it fits the theme perfectly and is really satisfying to hit.
Totally forgot about this one! I would put the bell as a close second imo.
Quoted from DaveH:I agree with BSD Mist Multiball.
As for JP, didn’t another game already have a T-Rex that interacted with the ball? I thought Data East had done something similar...
not near as cool
Quoted from Max_Badazz:I've always been a fan of the Stern POTC pirate ship
Also I would add the spinners on Whirlwind. Having three different discs spinning was a great "toy"
Capt B Zarr , the Dancing Dummy and the Supersonic Robotic Comic on Party Zone, the wrecking ball on Junkyard, the claw on JM, the spinning idol ball lock on IJ
Quoted from J-Freeze:Are any toys "critical to gameplay"?
I think the Rex makes a HUGE difference and adds to the "moment" of the shots.
What I meant was that you can remove the feature like on the pro and game plays pretty much the same. I don't think the moving trex is necessary for the full gaming experience. It adds some to it but wouldn't call it huge. Rudy is critical to the gaming experience in Funhouse. The whole game is created around it.
Nobody has mentioned WOZ...there are a number of cool toys...
Quoted from Lhyrgoif:TZ upper playfield is great, also MM Castle as that toy never gets old and really fits the theme.
Another forgotten toy imo is the rotating cannon in BR, love when I hit the broadside and sink the ship, really good feeling.
yea that cannon is pretty cool
As someone who has owned a lot (most) of the machines being mentioned for consideration and a current owner of a JP Premium, I would absolutely put the new TREX mech in the conversation for one of the best of all-time. Having played plenty of the Pro model as well, I find the addition of the TREX mech to be huge in my enjoyment of the game. As for the other contenders, I would certainly agree with suggestions like Rudy, the MM Castle, ToM's trunk, or the TZ Upper Playfield. The Stern PIrates ship is pretty damn cool too. I haven't played a lot of Dr Who, but that mech is pretty impressive in its 3-stage design.
As for the TREX mech, as long as it keeps working and doesn't break, I can't imagine getting tired of watching it eat the ball and throw it...it's a pretty awesome spectacle and everyone who seen mine has the same reaction: that's badass!
Quoted from per3per3:As someone who has owned a lot (most) of the machines being mentioned for consideration and a current owner of a JP Premium, I would absolutely put the new TREX mech in the conversation for one of the best of all-time. Having played plenty of the Pro model as well, I find the addition of the TREX mech to be huge in my enjoyment of the game. As for the other contenders, I would certainly agree with suggestions like Rudy, the MM Castle, ToM's trunk, or the TZ Upper Playfield. The Stern PIrates ship is pretty damn cool too. I haven't played a lot of Dr Who, but that mech is pretty impressive in its 3-stage design.
As for the TREX mech, as long as it keeps working and doesn't break, I can't imagine getting tired of watching it eat the ball and throw it...it's a pretty awesome spectacle and everyone who seen mine has the same reaction: that's badass!
this being key "huge in my enjoyment of the game"
Why I saved a few more bucks and got the premium
Quoted from LTG:I'd think to the T Rex in Data East Jurassic Park or the Pirate ship in Sterns Pirates, are better.
LTG : )
forgot about the Stern POTC, that is a good one
Strongly feel that it could be a top 10 or possibly top 5 pinball toy of all time if the t-rex actually ate the ball.
The ship in Stern Pirates is amazing, but it's a shame that its use is limited by repeitive rules. Shoot ship 3x, 5x, then 10x. That gets old quick.
I know it's easy to get enthusiastic about newer machines but there have been quite a few games that picked up a pinball and moved it. In addition to some of the games mentioned here you have games like Rescue 911 and even Frankenstein that came many years earlier that did the same thing.
I might be partial since I own a Black Knight: Sword of Rage, but I think the Black Knight toy looks much nicer and does several things. It has interactive lighting eyes as well as a shield that raises and a flail that spins.
If we are not factoring in gameplay or how good a game actually is, there were a few games with far superior mechs from a long time ago. I own a Williams Turf Champ and the playfield mech is pretty amazing. There is an entire field of horses that run across the playfield. Just take a look...
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In addition to the backbox which has the field of horses racing, you also get a rotating playfield! The middle of the playfield rotates continuously throughout the game.
1960-williams-nags-pinball-machine-great-cosmetics_1_b63d3fac7ecc43013bfac69b490ebe7a (1) (resized).jpg1960-williams-nags-pinball-machine-great-cosmetics_1_b63d3fac7ecc43013bfac69b490ebe7a (resized).jpgQuoted from VolunteerPin:Nobody has mentioned WOZ...there are a number of cool toys...
I think WOZ has the best accumulation of interactive toys but I'm not sure if any of them individually are a top 5 or 10 toy. However, if we are considering the moving monkey mech and upper left playfield as one toy I think that's hard to top. A playfield magnet, moving monkey mech with magnet, and an upper playfield with two motorized castle doors, a saucer shot behind 1 of the doors, a ball lock, and a loop shot is pretty damn impressive.
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