5 years ago it seemed that JJP was easily out pacing Stern with code updates that polished games and added additional content. Fast forward to 2022 and JJP code updates seem few and far between. Meanwhile Stern is regularly releasing code updates for their games that polish existing code and add additional features.

Is JJP releasing games with more completed code which has led to less code updates being required or is their a pattern of recent games not being polished? Wonka for example has had great post code update support but GNR and Pirates still have plenty of reports about a lack of polish from owners.

I did want to say one thing about JJP code design for some of their modes. There are too many modes across a number of JJP games that come across as generic IMO, and play extremely similar to other main modes in the game. I personally rather have 8 - 12 main modes with unique animations, sounds, shots, etc versus 20+ generic ones. I owned a JJP Pirates and Stern TMNT, I’ll gladly take the 8 unique main mode in TMNT over the 100+ generic ones in Pirates.

Agree. I wish the newer JJP's would have more modes similar to the Hobbits in terms of great mode choreography (lights, animations, music, etc all times to shots that work the playfield in interesting ways). Hobbit has masterpiece code, I hope we see a similar code design in future JJP pins.

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Yup, they sure are.

I don’t understand the wait at all at this point. This isn’t how JJP used to be with code updates.

Yes, Stern.

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Yup! Stern has done a complete 180 over the past 5 years in terms of code and I would also argue creating more loaded games.

It's a bummer to see the direction at JJP in terms of less overall code support and now with Toy Story less mechanically packed games at all time high prices.

Yeah. Code from Stern and JJP is more complete at launch compared to 5+ years ago. Stern however seems to be doing a far better job over the past few years of consistently polishing code. Lately JJP releases their launch code and then only a few minor updates follow. Hopefully that changes. Half the time when JJP announces a code update on their Facebook page it's just for a few bug fixes versus anything that polishes and expands on game code.

One last thing I'll add is that if you asked me 5 years who should make Back to the Future I would say JJP. However, after seeing how code support has been from JJP over the past few titles, the amount of generic shoot everything modes in them, and a lack of mechanical toys in TS4 I would today much rather see Stern make Back to the Future.

Yup. All of Keith Elwin's game's have been incredibly well polished with a number of updates. It's that extra polish that has been lacking as of late from JJP. I've said this before but I can't stand the "shoot everything" modes JJP has been putting many of their latest games, just comes across as a throw away mode with nothing to accomplish.

The latest JJP GNR beta update...

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Stern does it yet again and released code updates for 16 games. Meanwhile crickets from JJP on the code update front. What happened to continuing to polish code?

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Waiting for a JJP code update... All in good fun but seriously come on, release some code updates.

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