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Is stern evil????

By TwoHeartedMale

5 years ago


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    “Is stern evil???”

    • Yea, that wasnt cool guys. 76 votes
      40%
    • Nope, stern can do no wrong. 30 votes
      16%
    • Hear no evil, see no evil. Its pinball baby! 83 votes
      44%

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    #77 5 years ago

    It amazes me how silly some of you are.

    This is nothing more then stern deciding to let Spooky know that they see them. You want to make tna and take a pile of our sales then this is what you are going to get. Spooky is not the only company trying to put a roof over someone's head and that has employees to protect. No one knows if stern is going to make Godzilla or not. None of you will be whining if Brian Eddie rolls out a killer Godzilla game next year with ZY artwork.

    Yes it sucks for Charlie but there are lots of cool themes for him to do and now he knows how things will be with stern moving forward. They have the big stick and you have to be able to work around them.

    Everyone always wants competition but expects them to help each other out and not really compete.

    #79 5 years ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    lol. Gary Stern ran a business. He definitely did not save anything.
    Roger Sharpe > sure that guy saved pinball. Gary Stern knew how to do 1 thing and that thing was/is the business of making pinball. Pinball machines were still on route and in bars and even in homes during those dark years. Stern make some sub par games, learned how to cut costs during that time, and cheapened the entire product.
    It is not like others had exited the industry because it was not profitable. It merely was not as profitable as other areas where they could leverage the same manufacturing expertise.

    ANY company that came along and decided it was a market space they wanted to be in. You can easily predict the alternate history... A previous company could have started back up. Multiple new companies could have started. The reality we now see would likely not be much different in number of players if Stern had closed shop.
    Do you really think JJP and spooky only entered the market because Stern was still around? They entered the market despite Stern being the big player with a history of how they act.
    I gotta say, it really is not that big of a void to fill... From 2000 to 2010 they made ~30 different titles. How many of those are currently considered good? 3 maybe 4 if you are a stern lover.
    LOTR, TSPP, Spidey, Tron
    All the rest is largely junk titles that nobody really seeks out or rates highly now. Stern during the dark years is not very good...

    This is complete nonsense. Because making pinball is so easy even after stern held on and started to see the comeback.

    You just know how to make things and take the market share, anyone can do it.

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    #121 5 years ago

    After thinking about it I now have to agree, stern is really evil. I mean they haven't stole anyone's money like Skit-b, Zidware, heighway, Dutch, or nearly went under with over 1000 preorders like jjp. But they are for sure evil. They make games and if you like them you can buy them. They try to get the best licenses to make most desired games. Pure evil I tell you.

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