If all this is true then I still don't care. Man u guys need to get ur priorities in check. Its a game, an expensive toy for us old farts. New game comes out and u like it, buy it. Is it gonna be perfect, nope. Other than that who gives a shit.

Change from what?
have u played Maiden and JP2 or Deadpool. All great games and TMNT looks quite amazing. What needs to change?

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Jesus H, Do any of u realize just how small this industry is. Man get over urselves. As for this ridiculous comment above, so you want nothing but great games every time? try fantasy land. Maybe there they will have that perfect company. I'll say it again the op's need there own section on this site. Mindset is way different than the casual or even serious collector.

Interesting.
I actually meant the opposite, at least for me I usually see the op's being the ones with the most vitriol for issues with games. I don't care about it because I never really encounter these issues due to the fact that by 500 plays I'm usually done with the game hence nothing breaks, never had a node board issue, nothing, well I shouldn't say that I have some minor issues, but when something does go its not affecting me outside of a nuisance or a very temporary halt in the action. That tends to be with older used pins but a few things with NIB's as well. Now I'm aware this will incite many of u to list how things have broke after only a very few games and that sucks but so far in my experience that's part of pinball.

What?
That's called being real, I don't demand it because I know its impossible. We all have r good days and bad days. Also how could know what my "excellent" is, you can't anymore than I could know ur definition. Look at how we all differ on what pins are great and which ones suck. My mindset is simply that I will buy the games I like regardless of who makes them. That applies to everything. Yeah I'd like every pin to be a masterpiece but like I said in that post. "fantasy land"

Smart move. Get the pro. Its an amazing game.

Well that just foolish sir.
Its not that Stern can do no wrong they do plenty wrong as do all of the manufacturers whether it being sales or marketing or the BQ or theme, but we all have different tolerance levels. Haven't u ever sold a pin and been flabbergasted that's right "flabbergasted" by the nit picking of potential buyers. Yeah I didn't like the chipping on my JP2 but I treated the area to stop it from getting out of control and it didn't affect game play at all, then I recently sold it with no issue. I experience this in the music world as well. Some guy has an expensive guitar usually worth much more than his ability would garner but u can't touch it and hes wants perfection and his amp is custom this with this and other crap. U could knock over my bass or guitar and it could chip or get dirty and as long as it plays I don't care. you know. Ah too long I don't care anymore. Never blame other people for buying from a company because u feel its impacting ur ideal of what they should produce. Good day to u sir, I said good day.

Sounds like a real genius.

They aren't doing it "blindly" and I think for the most part things have gotten better. I'm a big fan of DP, JP2, Maiden, BKSOR, TMNT is looking great. If an individual can't tolerate the short comings then time to move on I guess, I mean if I was fed up with Stern I wouldn't buy it anymore and I certainly would blame others for continuing to purchases pins. No one can say there are blind or unaware of the issues at this point, they don't care and are having fun.

Good.
Who the hell is actually commenting on Sterns facebook page? I've never even visited it before.
Then again I can't understand how anyone even goes on that ridiculous site, I mean with the exception of young folk and people who can generate money from it what is the point, to advertise ur life? no one really cares.

When it comes to social media? Yes sir, and staying that way. What r 30 year old's doing on that site exactly? On second thought I don't want to know.

Maybe for routed games but Jesus what r u guys doing with ur pins? "keep it forever" famous last words.

Yeah kinda. I never had any real issues and even if I did it wouldn't stop from buying another Stern. If I was routing my games there's no way I wouldn't be putting Sterns out there. Whatever.