Quoted from yancy:
I don't necessarily disagree with your list of complaints, but the thing is, they've made some of the most fun, rewarding games ever in the last few years. They hired the best player of all time, and he's on pace to be the best designer of all time. Not gonna deprive myself the joy of owning & playing two of my favorite games ever because I disagree with a few business decisions.
Those few business decisions span years. You do you, but for me, I can't partake in spending my money with a company that I know full and well keeps giving us less while taking more. There has to be a limit, and I found mine. Will I play them at other people's homes or locations once I get back to "America" instead of this wasteland I'm currently in.....? Absolutely. But Stern ain't getting my money.
Quoted from chuckwurt:
Totally agree. But why have that 3-15 minutes be wasted on an over priced snore fest like scared stiff? Everyone screamed to the heavens that Munsters was way too simplistic. But then line up to buy a scared stiff for 6-7k. I’ll never understand it.
Life’s too short to own scared stiff people!
It’s all in good fun. Just remember you don’t have to buy a stern from the past 5-6 years to get more enjoyment out of pinball than Scared Stiff.
Hoping to see ya at Pincinnati 2021 brotha.
So, what you're saying is your next game you are purchasing is Scared Stiff ; )?
Yes, I absolutely do plan to come to Pincinnati. Not getting deployed this time ; ). We'll just have to see what COVID brings in terms of travel for active duty members.
Quoted from Hazoff:
...Never blame other people for buying from a company because u feel its impacting ur ideal of what they should produce. Good day to u sir, I said good day.
Until this community stops blindly throwing money at Stern, nothing is going to change. Actually, I take that back - things will change but not for the better.
You ever thought you'd see "prop rods" for working on your game? (yes yes, the sliding rails returned, and you get to pay even more $$ for them now...nice pyrrhic victory there)
Ever thought you'd watch that artwork slip, chip, and slide around your brand new $6000+ game?
Ever thought you'd be conditioned to accept that seeing the wood lines through the artwork to be normal?
Insert ghosting is "par for the course" and even put in the manuals to make you believe that's normal?
Hey, what did Stern actually do to fix their PF artwork chipping pooling problem? Did they ever really and actually TELL you? Nah. They kept producing and this community kept buying.
Hey, I'm not telling anyone you can't spend your money. Burn it in front of a camera for all I care, but don't put up a bitch-fit against them if you're writing checks every time a new game comes out and expect anything to change for your benefit. Nothing will change until the money spigot gets turned off from the community, and that is just not going to happen.
Quoted from metallik:
I agree with you bud.. I don't think I've turned LOTR on in a year. That's one of the things I like about JP, it's not really a long player. I don't think you CAN play much longer than an hour because the game actually ends... you either get off the island or die trying. Most games are resolved long before that.. either you make shots and have a good game, or you brick and lose the ball.
Best thing is how the rules are set up, you can get points so many ways. Last night I set a new GC 1.76B, without making it to any wizard modes and with only one each raptor and chaos MB, both of which stunk. Instead I had a good rescue streak, 4 successful smart missles (earning my raptor MB, an EB, invalid? and a wildcard fossil), 140M off the invalid, 130M in bonus on one ball, plus rocking all 4 T-rex modes- 200M off the multiball and 100+ from each of the others. Was one raptor and a MAP set from likely 500M+ visitors center bonus, couple trucks from museum.
Right now, the "one more play" aspect of JP exceeds any other game I've played
No arguments here , Larry. I am spot on with you, and I always appreciated how you walked a new player through the rules on some of these games. You were like our local Bowen Kehrins in terms of gameplay and knowing what to do. I definitely felt less intimidated trying to digest pinball rules that rivaled the thickness of King's IT novel.
In the end, I have drawn my line in the sand (note, I said sand meaning I am willing to change my mind) as to what my limits are. I refuse to support Stern until some things change.
In a way, I'm honestly grateful so many people buy NIB. More classic B/W games for me and others that enjoy that era of pinball!
Good discussions here. I enjoyed this, and it actually stayed respectful and coherent. Maybe there is hope!