Assuming both are in good condition.
Thoughts on game play & fun vs. value?
Depends if you want a deep or shallow game. The rules on WCS94 are great, but they are not deep by any means. It is hard and unforgiving game, but you basically have 2 objectives, that is it. That said, it is a fantastic game. I haven't played Road Show enough to fairly judge, but I can tell the rules are deeper.
I don't know if I would say Road Show is a "deep" game, but it does have a long, linear progression. It's more like Whitewater or LOTR in terms of having lots of modes. There's not a whole lot of strategy in RS. You just plow through the cities, play multi-ball and collect items that give you more points when you get to a city. There's nothing to stack or set up in RS. But it's one of the games that will take you the most time to see all its features and content because it was designed for lots of buy-ins.
Personally, I think RS is one of Pat Lawlor's best games.
Quoted from kvan99:
... I'd rather have a something else in that price range: ... JM...
I could get my hands on a JM for about the same price as the WCS, but it really doesn't look like that great of a game (...for my taste anyway).
World Cup Soccer gets my vote, for sure. I find that game really fun, while I can barely tolerate Road Show.
Quoted from Fatsquatch:
World Cup Soccer gets my vote, for sure. I find that game really fun, while I can barely tolerate Road Show.
I would agree that it *is* all about personal opinion, though. You'd almost have to play one on your own to determine which *you* like better personally, in terms of gameplay and things. "To each his own" type of thing, you know?
I mean, don't get me wrong, I like WCS, it's just that RS would get my vote in a side by side comparison. Still personal opinion though.
I would say RS is worth twice what wcs is. wcs is fun, but RS is very deep. It is linear in play, and if you are having shit games on a well shopped machine (as it is very fast and ruthless) it can always seem like you are playing NY and Atlanta over and over, but there are two very long paths to two wizard modes, one bigger one, and a crap load of other stuff to do.
Sometime I think it would have been nice if the modes were mixed up, but many involving the taxi driver would need to be played in chronological order to make sense. This was Lawlor trying to keep things fresh in new directions, as with SC. Like it or not, he was thinking outside the box and against the grain (grains for which he already invented - a million thanks to you forever Lawlor), and given that the linear path is different than any other machine out there, it's a fun change when you come around to this machine in your lineup.
You can still pick your initial path at the start, but given you mostly shoot for the skill, it usually ends up NY first.
Not voting because I haven't put much time in on WCS. I own a Roadshow, and it is quite good fun. Pat Lawlor's design, and John Youssi's artwork, DCS sound, and some great modes make for a keeper. The family-friendly theme makes it quite popular with my wife, daughter, and guests.
As with most every pin condition counts. A cleaned, waxed, and well tuned RS plays great. I've seen some pretty rough RS's. Judge accordingly.
Roadshow was the game that got me addicted to pinball when it first came out. It has a lot of nostalgic value for me so I had to answer YES.
I owned both. WCS was a blast to play and was probably by far the most popular pin with kids and non pinball friends. RS is still around but is starting to feel old. The only RS complaint I would have is the Linear Play and it is a little stop-n-go (I have a preference for faster games).
WCS just got a little too easy so I sold it to a friend who is a huge soccer (err football) fan.
Given the choice I would take RS over WCS but if you have kids & family that are less than into pinball then WCS is the way to go.
My 2c.
Quoted from robbiedoo:
Assuming both are in good condition.
Thoughts on game play & fun vs. value?
What did you decide on?
Roadshow is one of my favorite games on my hyperpin. I dont think ive ever played one in person.
Would like to find one eventually to buy.
Hard question.
I owned a RS for a few months. Cool game, but I had a proposal for an exchange I could not decline. I somewhat miss the game as it has plenty to offer in terms of PF layout (and being left handed, having 3 flippers on the left vs 1 on the right is fun and unusual!). But it seems the rules do not give this layout its full potential. It had everything to be as "rich" as TZ... but it is not.
I never owned WCS. Could not care less about soccer. Still, the game is fun and good. It may appeal to children (the goal is a cool feature) and does have lastability for decent players.
Bottom line is you can't get wrong with either choice. They are very, very different in terms of gameplay. Try them both, and find the one that fit your style!
If possible, play them both first. I found with RS that once I knew where the shots were, I could VERY consistently hit them and keep the ball in play for a really long time. I find the game dull because of it, and I've played a bunch including multiple that were supposedly set up "super nasty'.
WCS set up super nasty IS super nasty, and while it doesn't have tons of different stuff to do, getting there is not easy.
RS is one I never need, WCS is one that I got more or less on accident and will never leave.
Thanks Astro, I'll keep that in mind when I decide to buy myself what your preferable pin is.
TOM has been my dream machine for quite awhile, and though it is rough, I can spend time fixing it up (I find that just as fun as playing it), invest a few hundred more dollars and make it really nice.
When I saw it, I wanted it, so I bought it.
Quoted from robbiedoo:
Thanks Astro, I'll keep that in mind when I decide to buy myself what your preferable pin is.
TOM has been my dream machine for quite awhile, and though it is rough, I can spend time fixing it up (I find that just as fun as playing it), invest a few hundred more dollars and make it really nice.
When I saw it, I wanted it, so I bought it.
You are right.....I apologize. My post was uncalled for.....and now, retracted.
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