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Do Pinball Themes Lack Diversity?

By kaneda

9 years ago

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#1 9 years ago

CMK

This sort of came up in the Fast and the Furious thread. Does pinball lack diversity? Especially when it comes to theme? How many rock n roll themed machines are there? Lots. Not one pinball machine to celebrate hip hop or rap. Why is that? I love AC/DC, Guns N Roses, Metallica...but I also love Tupac, Biggie, Death Row, NWA too...

I think a theme like Fast N Furious would bridge the racial gap a bit, no? One of the reasons that franchise has been so successful is the cast...it's literally a melting pot cast of asian, white, black and hispanic.

I think it would be super fun to and epic to flip a ball around with some killer hip hop or rap going...imagine an Eminem pin with songs like lose yourself going...That would be killer. Just saying...

Thoughts?

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#2 9 years ago

HAR

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Truly tired of this kind of subject. Simple theme stinks move on.

#3 9 years ago

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Quoted from kaneda:
but I also love Tupac, Biggie, Death Row, NWA too...

Please spend your time on those forums then.

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#4 9 years ago

CMK

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Quoted from shovelhed:
Truly tired of this kind of subject. Simple theme stinks move on.

Nobody's making you reply Actually haven't seen this topic discussed at all.

#5 9 years ago

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Internet Troll trying to start up stuff.

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#6 9 years ago

CMK

kaneda

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Quoted from jayhawkai:
Please spend your time on those forums then.

So do you think pinball theme's could be more diverse? Not sure they'd care on those other forums.

#7 9 years ago

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Quoted from kaneda:
Actually haven't seen this topic discussed at all.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/do-black-people-like-pinball

Just stop.

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#8 9 years ago

CMK

kaneda

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Quoted from phalcon_2600:
Internet Troll trying to start up stuff.

How is this being a troll? Just asking a basic question. If anything, you're trolling the thread by posting nothing of value.

#9 9 years ago

RPL

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You've made some pretty silly posts in the past, I didn't think you could top those but this one takes the cake. Absolutely ridiculous. I'm starting to think you make these dumb posts just to get attention now.

#10 9 years ago

BLY

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Pick up a Minstrel Man woodrail.

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#11 9 years ago

CMK

kaneda

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Quoted from Blackjacker:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/do-black-people-like-pinball
Just stop.

This is NOT what I am saying at all. I play pinball with black people. I can see why that thread was closed down. It's inherently racists to say that. I am asking if there's a lack of diversity in themes. Mainly the lack of multi-cultural themes.

#12 9 years ago

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Simple answer: No!

#13 9 years ago

ASS

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I love Koi Morris.

#14 9 years ago

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erak

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In before the lock.

Better question.

Is this topic for stupid people, by stupid people?

#15 9 years ago

JLH

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Dude, go away. I'm sure that you could be appreciated greatly in some special masochistic forum on the interwebz. Weren't you supposed to be on a hiatus anyway?

#16 9 years ago

ZZZ

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One of my business partners is a your typical black guy. Athlete, Olympian, naval diver, ghetto and fashionable. LOVES pins and games more than anyone I know. Sometimes it's not about the idea that pins are not racial diverse, it's about who you become friends with. He is my favorite business associate, not because of his race, because he is one of very few that shares the love of games more than I.

#17 9 years ago

JDB

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I have friends all over the world and many many different races and we have a lot in common, We all share a love of Sci Fi as well as other themes. While music themes tend to skew to one side there is still a lot of games that appeal to many.

#18 9 years ago

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Troll

#19 9 years ago

NES

Spitfiren8

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Can a moderator please close this COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE thread!

#20 9 years ago

???

usandthem

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Pretty much. Just look around. Look around here. Look around at any pinball location, or any pinball show. It's pretty self-evident. Be prepared for many thumbs down, however. No one likes to face the truth even though it's staring them in the face (err, especially when it's staring them in the face).

The other honest question though is, is it a big deal? To a large extent (present company excluded), the pinball crowd is very similar to the Comic-Con crowd (also not very diverse). Look at the pinball themes and tell me that 90% of them don't appeal pretty much to the nerdy white guy demographic.

People around here want to kill the messenger, but you do bring up a legitimate point. Taboo topic? Yes. Truthful? Yes.

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#21 9 years ago

CMK

kaneda

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Wow...just asking a simple question and thank you to those who actually gave a normal, mature answer. I should have just had the title be: do pinball themes lack diversity? Anyone know how to change a thread title once it's open?

#22 9 years ago

SAM

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Nope. Now please don't make pinball a political racial issue. Just play and have fun in the hobby.

I will say one thing, if a hip hop artist wants to fund to produce a hip hop pin, then go for it. I personally don't like hip hop, but I love pinball and would probably play it anyway.

#23 9 years ago

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beelzeboob

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In answer to your question: No.

But someone who stumbled on this thread would be justified in thinking pinball is for stupid people by stupid people.

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#24 9 years ago

CMK

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Ok...to avoid any racial concerns, let's just talk about diversity in themes. That's all I was getting at.

All I am saying is that there is probably a huge untapped potential for pinball to expand it's reach if the themes themselves drew in other fan bases. That's all.

Forget race, I think there's hardly any games out there for KIDS. Yes, KIDS. By that I mean themes that appeal to young kids vs adults. The sweet spot would be of course Disney themes since they appeal to both kids and adults. Is it just too expensive to license a Disney themed pin? Has Stern looked into it?

#25 9 years ago

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beelzeboob

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Just wait until Stern releases the Shaft pin later this year. You'll change your tune.

Can you dig it?

#26 9 years ago

JDB

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I'm in the comicon crowd and have a lot of friends of color, not sure how you get that unless some shows skew more white than mIne ( I attend sdcc and wondercon) both of which are pretty diversified

#27 9 years ago

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Quoted from kaneda:
Can someone tell me how to change the thread title to: Do pinball themes lack diversity?

And no. I'm not telling. I enjoy your race-baiting title.

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#28 9 years ago

???

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Quoted from Spitfiren8:
Can a moderator please close this COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE thread!

Why is it inappropriate? So, mysogynistic posts and photos that have nothing to do with pinball are acceptable and the right-wing political posts and jabs at the President on here are acceptable, but an honest question about something that we all know to be true is posed, and that's unacceptable? At least the post was pinball-related.

#29 9 years ago

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Quoted from usandthem:
Why is it inappropriate? So, mysogynistic posts and photos that have nothing to do with pinball are acceptable and the right-wing political posts and jabs at the President on here are acceptable, but an honest question about something that we all know to be true is posed, and that's unacceptable? At least the post was pinball-related.

Good point. Does Obama play pinball? And if so, does he only use the left flipper?

#30 9 years ago

BRG

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Click edit on your first post. That should enable a title change.

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#31 9 years ago

CMK

kaneda

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Quoted from IdahoRealtor:
Click edit on your first post. That should enable a title change.

Thanks. Just did it.

#32 9 years ago

RAR

beelzeboob

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Quoted from IdahoRealtor:
Click edit on your first post. That should enable a title change.

Buzzkill.

No longer interested in this thread.

#33 9 years ago

???

usandthem

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Quoted from beelzeboob:
Good point. Does Obama play pinball? And if so, does he only use the left flipper?

Haha. See???

#34 9 years ago

Chrisbee

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Well this thread is going well, then!!
I’m not sure if your OP is bad, but the title is terrible. If you want to help “Bridge the Racial gap” this is not helping. I’m going to leave this thread open for now, if it turn nasty from here it will be closed.

#35 9 years ago

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Quoted from usandthem:
Why is it inappropriate? So, mysogynistic posts and photos that have nothing to do with pinball are acceptable and the right-wing political posts and jabs at the President on here are acceptable, but an honest question about something that we all know to be true is posed, and that's unacceptable? At least the post was pinball-related.

I think the necessity to change the title of the thread from "by white people for white people" is evidence enough it is inappropriate.

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#36 9 years ago

CMK

kaneda

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Quoted from beelzeboob:
Buzzkill.
No longer interested in this thread.

haha...well, at least we all saw that a good headline is somewhat controversial and gets a reaction. But it wasn't only about race, so I changed it.

#37 9 years ago

RAR

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For those of you joining us late, Kaneda originally was wondering if pinball was only for white people. Because, I suppose, black people obviously don't play pinball. He changed his title, and if I could have quoted it, I would have. But for posterity's sake, he asked if pinball was made by white people for white people.

So there you have it. Now you can move along. Nothing to see here...

#38 9 years ago

Chrisbee

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New title is much better.

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#39 9 years ago

CMK

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Quoted from beelzeboob:
For those of you joining us late, Kaneda originally was wondering if pinball was only for white people. Because, I suppose, black people obviously don't play pinball. He changed his title, and if I could have quoted it, I would have. But for posterity's sake, he asked if pinball was made by white people for white people.
So there you have it. Now you can move along. Nothing to see here...

Does the word "CONTEXT" mean anything in your world? I never said pinball was only for white people. I said the pinball themes we get seem to be one sided, especially with music. Why no rap or hip hop themes? I bet Tupac fans would love a Tupac pin, no?

#40 9 years ago

LPD

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Are pachinko machines made by Asians for Asians?

#41 9 years ago

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Here's why you're wrong, Kaneda. Games for people of color:

NBA Fastbreak
Big Guns
Black Spiderman
Creature from the Black Lagoon
The Getaway: High Speed II
Guns & Roses
Congo (Oh, no he didn't!!!)
Batman The Dark Knight
Black Rose
Taxi
Junk Yard (Sanford & Son would have loved that one!)
Black Hole
Blackout

There you go. Games with diversity.

#42 9 years ago

RAR

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Quoted from Tribonian:
Are pachinko machines made by Asians for Asians?

Yes???

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#43 9 years ago

CMK

kaneda

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Quoted from Tribonian:
Are pachinko machines made by Asians for Asians?

They are made for Nicholas Cage:

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#44 9 years ago

CMK

kaneda

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Quoted from beelzeboob:
Here's why you're wrong, Kaneda. Games for people of color:
NBA Fastbreak
Big Guns
Black spiderman
Creature from the Black Lagoon
The Getaway: High Speed II
Guns & Roses
Congo (Oh, no he didn't!!!)
Batman The Dark Knight
Black Rose
Taxi
Junk Yard (Sanford & Son would have loved that one!)
Black Hole
Blackout
There you go. Games with diversity.

Might want to think about some of those...

#45 9 years ago

RAR

beelzeboob

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Quoted from kaneda:
And our racist of the year goes to.....

I'm not a racist at all. I hate all people equally. And all I did was list game titles.

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#46 9 years ago

CMK

kaneda

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Quoted from beelzeboob:
I'm not a racist at all. I hate all people equally.

Well, i changed my statement as I don't think it's right to call anyone racist on here.

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#47 9 years ago

CMK

kaneda

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Seriously though, back on topic. Why have there been no Disney pins? Also, it was just posted that Fast N The Furious made some record opening weekend. People do realize that FNF is far more popular than Game of Thrones, right? But yet most people on here think FNF is a dumb idea. I actually think that theme is a nice bridge to get pins with more diversity out there. Sure it has a car theme, but the music is all hip hop.

#48 9 years ago

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Quoted from kaneda:
Nobody's making you reply Actually haven't seen this topic discussed at all.

We've been down this road before. It didn't go well.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/why-is-pinball-such-a-white-hobby

Honestly, it's kind of a trollish topic. It'll either stir up a bunch of crap, or you'll end up having a conversation with yourself until people get upset by the constant bumps and come running to us. Ultimately. It'll get locked.

I'll just save us some steps...

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