Quoted from Lhyrgoif:

To me MM is #1, not everyone want deep code and games lasting forever. I like the 90s games because they are shallower and much more approachable to a normally skilled player.
Pulling some numbers out of my ass: I'm sure 9 of 10 players prefer a fun easy game of MM rather than studying 30 pages of rules and playing a never ending game of lotr for 30 minutes.

Quoted from smokinhos:

Approachable, fun.. I agree. But MM in a home collection needs to be surrounded by other games with deeper code. STh in my house is extremely popular (probably the fav) and compares according to others as an AFM. BUT - STh premium, has telekinesis lock, a projector, insane UV, fantastic Cleland code, easily accessible ramp shots, great modes, assets, a ramp and freakin monster you get to pinhole. The game has depth for 3 ball players and easy to understand stepping it. Side by side, ill take STh over MM and AFM, and definitely MB.

Quoted from KozMckPinball:

Except the non-licensed remakes sell like hotcakes now. The highest rated version of MM is a remake with features the originals did not have.

Quoted from jimwe5t:

Was speaking to an operator recently. He said modern Sterns and CGC all work almost flawlessly, while he has nothing but nonstop problems with B/W games and can’t figure out why people think they’re built like tanks?

Quoted from TheLaw:

The weight.

Quoted from jimwe5t:

Makes complete sense to those not trying to defend their old collections. New parts and modern day machines will hold up much better over time, far better than the old B/W machines of the last century. Ask any operator what a nightmare they were back in the long ago past to maintain and they’ll fill your head with nightmarish servicing stories of way back then. Those machines were new at that time, so it is an apples to apples comparison. Stern for one has a testing facility that simulates many years worth of use and they’ve found all the units with the new upgraded cabinets since 2019, prove to be in better shape than the old relics of more than a quarter century ago. At the prices we are paying they should be and modern tech is so much more advanced than the dark ages of the B/W DMD era.

Quoted from PtownPin:

Hmmmm.....really....what games?

Quoted from PtownPin:

he just trolls threads pumping Stern games.

Quoted from jimwe5t:

Thanks to adoring fans like you, this is a better place???

Quoted from Lhyrgoif:

Change "castle" to another word and that sentence applies to lots of other games too. The difference with MM that makes it stand out is the humor, great theme integration and pure fun, something many other games lack.

Quoted from DropGems:

TS is better than MM

Quoted from underlord:

Damned fine collection you’ve got there. Damned fine Sir. [quoted image]

Quoted from jimwe5t:

Lol (sarcasm), but loaded with real truth. After 20 to 30 years, items become classified as antiques. MM, AFM, MB and now CC are real world antiques, but can understand why old skutters love their relics from the long ago past. Short ball times and shallow code, with difficult shots, operators love, because we keep pumping in the dollars. As a home owner, these ancient DMD old tech shallow code relics don’t cut it and the reason why after the FOMO fades, awakened owners, even you downvoting old geezers sell them off. Lol
GZ should easily stay number 1 unless the old geezers continue to manipulate the “false 100”.

Quoted from jimwe5t:

Sorry, vpins don’t hold a candle to the real mechanical pinball experience. Lights, mechs, sounds, callouts, music, LCD back box: vpin experience not even close. In fact light years apart. I’d take any manufacturers offering over a vpin loaded with 300 virtual pinball games.

Quoted from Richard-NBA-SF2:

Man! What a collection!

Quoted from Kneissl:

I think at least the Elwin games are raising the bar on layouts. Stern is turning out awesome stuff. On the other hand I’ve been playing whitewater a lot lately. It doesn’t have nearly the depth or breadth of modern games but it does have serious magic.. especially if it’s running lightning flippers and whatever other difficult settings.