Florida has some redeeming qualities as does most places.....calling anywhere pathetic is just being an asshole

Are we being racist here I take it .... Remember its thanks to a "French" guy like me that voted to save Socialist Canada from separation.

I actually was being truthful and nice calling the state of California Pathetic! Anyone can prove me otherwise with their welcomed opinion.

You sound like Donald Trump with your repetitive, broad-stroke, one-word hot take on a very diverse thing. You should try & Be Best. Life is too short.

I wish more people had the same opinion you do. That way those of us who live could enjoy it.

Its all good in my eyes...what your exposing is how naive you are...California is a massive state, and is very different north to south or east to west. The advantage is the state offers just about any environment one would want...jobs, no jobs, traffic, no traffic, beaches, mountains, lakes, desert, hot, cold, dry, wet, etc...its all over the map. Each individual can pick and choose whats important in their livelihood.

I think California is a great state,with so much natural beauty.I think the problem is some of the political viewpoints that come from the politicians.It’s called the left coast for more then its orientation.Oregon has a lot of the same left views and look at it now.

The left coast comment is very true. Especially if your referring to Northern California....SoCal is far more conservative that NorCal

Whatever ... defender her all you want facts are facts it’s a Bankrupt state! I could go on and on and on and on ...but I’ll stop here.

Please, by all means, go on & please cite credible sources.

Go on... I'm sure there's some well informed opinions on the state coming.
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now your just showing how little you actually know....please go on and on....

Dont forget, the Central Valley is more conservative than the Bay Area too.

Says the guy who lives in a province that receives 57% of all provincial/territorial equalization payments for the entirety of Canada. And has a provincial debt of $270 billion.

"Every time you point a finger in scorn—there are three remaining fingers pointing right back at you."

Good shit! Since he seems big on data and citations, his second home, Florida, also happens to be a "taker" state (to the tune of $1.12 drawn from the federal pot for every $1 contributed).
https://rockinst.org/issue-areas/fiscal-analysis/balance-of-payments-portal/

I always hear about this mass exodus from California (strange to hear since the population keeps going up). You can't get a 1000 sq. foot ranch in the San Fernando valley near the 101 for under 800K. Must be desirable to a whole lot of people despite all of the Texas hype.

California is paradise. That's why so many people flock to it and why it is so expensive. The midwest is flyover country for a reason. I know. I live there.

Have you ever come into contact with Lt. Dangle?

Ive lived in a few states in some pretty desirable areas...

Outside of Hawaii (where I have never lived but went to every year when i was in Cali) I always say California was my favorite place... and I have been all over it so I know the state pretty well.

I spent one year walkable to the beach in Manhattan beach and every day after work would go have some dinner and a few beers and go in the water...

I miss that kind of stuff. But like I said earlier living on a fault line thats way overdue? no thanks.

To each their own right....I've been all over the world, and found out pretty quickly that every place has its pros and cons. Whether your on the west coast, midwest, or east coast. They all have their pros and cons....no place is better than another....its a personal choice

Thats true...I was referring to the inner Bay Area, which is very liberal

Flyover? You sound like my east coast wife. She thought Michigan (most beautiful "midwest" state) and Kansas were near each other. I grew up right across the street from Canton, MI near I-275 and Cherry Hill Rd. I hear it's getting worse in terms of schools and crime.

I would move to the West Coast in a heartbeat. I need milder summers...too damn hot in North Carolina! Winters are pleasant based on comparison to Michigan. Northern California through Washington state sounds nice for weather.

Superglue it ya pansy. I’ve done much worse and kept working. You nine fingered snowflakes...

Funny....I was Alaska a few years a go fly fishing in the middle of no where. I cut my palm really bad and had to super glue it back together....it stung like a bitch, but it worked .... went to the doctor when I got home, and he said it was healing fine and that stitches weren't required.

I’ve patched up a broken toe with plaster of Paris, , broken rib with tightly wound bandages, glued my forehead back together at work. New Hampshire healthcare at its finest.

Sorry about the fires over there. That’s scary shit.

Shouldn’t the California folks be powered down to conserve energy per the governor? How are all you guys/gals on pinside right now?

Our Governor is a douche bag.....I don't think power is an issue at the moment...temps are back to normal ...high 70's low 80's

Oh fuck. That looks like it hurt like hell and it is going to be worse for the next week or so. Damn.

Absolutely true. CA is paradise and the jobs are substantially better. The housing is the real bummer though. Pay 10x what it’s worth everywhere else.

My balls fell out once...But my wife put them back in her purse.

I don't know about 10X, but I hear ya....

Thats nuts I was in the middle of no where so either I had to get helicoptered out or suck it up .... it was day 2 of a 8 day trip so I sucked it up....

I left a 2004 1940sq ft house that I bought new for 155k.
I rented a 1958 1722sq ft house until the owner decided to sell and offered it to me for 1.5M. I declined.

So for me it was around 10x more for a smaller and much less nice house.

When you start looking at 1.5M homes in Texas, the numbers change and you're probably looking at 4x for a comparable CA home.

Put another way, look at those homes you referenced for 1.5M - mansions, with pools and lots of land, etc.

1.5M in Silicon Valley is a barely passable house. Definitely nothing fancy.

Fair enough. The Bay Area is my CA frame of reference which is for sure batshit crazy.
I wish it wasn't so, I loved living there despite the lower standard of (house) living.

The whole topic of the power situation in CA could be a big thread of its own with plenty of arguments. But basically these days when it gets super hot, in Socal the power company requests everyone to dial it down, especially between 3 and 7. Amazingly, everyone did pretty well on this and blackouts were minimal when we had that bad heat streak a few days ago. The central valley and NorCal are different, they have PG&E and because of the giant mess of the Camp fire they perform mandatory shutdowns in high risk areas with the goal of not starting more fires. So large swaths will just go without power, sometimes for extended periods.

All that said, as of right now in Socal things are pretty good, temps are way down. It’s around 72 or so.

Basically, it’s around 70-75 here about 340 days a year. It’s around 100 or so maybe 15 days. On the other 10 days it rains.

Well you can't really ask for much better than that...

You are 100% correct Quebec also has become a piece of shit province worse the Cali. I live here because of family and business,kinda trapped ...my happy moments are in Florida!

do you think I give a shit what you think? Its obvious truth hurts for you.

Your not wrong....in the Bay Area land is whats really expensive...empty .25+ acre lots (which is a big lot for a new home) sell for over $1M in my area...and then if u want to build a custom home your talking $300-$400 a square foot....it adds up pretty quick....areas that are close to job centers, and have good schools are pricey. That being said there are many parts of California that are far less expensive. My buddy in Utah has a nice home thats 4K square feet and he paid $400K....he laughs at our home pricing.

No, but believe or not I care even less what u think....clearly your delusional

With all theses “paradise” references I vote to revise the poll.

Is CA...

A. Paradise

B. Shithole

Or

C. Both

Utah is nice. They have dinosaur fossils and tracks, Zion National Park... You want to have some fun? Day trip to Vegas...

Same as everywhere else, except your low humidity feels awesome.

foutre le camp, mon frere. Montreal is one of the greatest cities in the world, it's too bad you want to be in Florida. The truth about you is quite obvious.