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Is a Autographed Kiss really worth 21k?


By tscottn

3 months ago



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#1 3 months ago

Local Cali CL ad. Maybe it is, Just wondering..I mean, anything is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, and being signed by all 4 members ( assuming the signatures are authentic) here is the link..

losangeles.craigslist.org link

#3 3 months ago

No.

#4 3 months ago

Not to me.

#5 3 months ago

well also I guess the seller is saying in the ad that he has the original colors on the PF arrows before they were switched.. that might make it little more valuable.. ?

#6 3 months ago

Guarantee Gene Simmons is the one selling this.

#7 3 months ago

Bullshit detector at DEFCON 4.
What a scam.

#8 3 months ago
Quoted from PBMAN:

Guarantee Gene Simmons is the one selling this.

HAHA Your probably right!

#9 3 months ago

I'll sell my non autographed one for half that.

John

#10 3 months ago

No.

Are these the 50 limited ones they had been selling from the Kiss website? If they were worth it, they would have sold for the $10K to $12K they were asking 3 years ago.

Or are you talking about the old Bally one that was inflated at $4K for years then lost most value after the Stern was released.

Either way, no.

#11 3 months ago

But it comes with the original bulbs....

#12 3 months ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

But it comes with the original bulbs....

That’s a game changer for sure

#13 3 months ago

For 21k I better get more than just a Kiss if you know what I'm sayin.

#14 3 months ago
Quoted from Coindork:

For 21k I better get more than just a Kiss if you know what I'm sayin.

And it better be from Shannon Tweed

#15 3 months ago
Quoted from JayDee:

And it better be from Shannon Tweed

Only if we can go back to 1989

#16 3 months ago

This is the 3rd third thread I saw derail in the past hour. Nice. N-i-c-e.

#17 3 months ago
Quoted from Taxman:

This is the 3rd third thread I saw derail in the past hour. Nice. N-i-c-e.

What are the other two?
I dont want to miss anything...

#18 3 months ago
Quoted from Taxman:

This is the 3rd third thread I saw derail in the past hour. Nice. N-i-c-e.

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#19 3 months ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

What are the other two?
I dont want to miss anything...

o-din's False Advertising Million shot thread was one of them.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/false-advertising#post-5142009

Looked quick for the other. But an hour means page 2 and I'm not seeing it or remembering specifics.

#20 3 months ago
Quoted from Taxman:

This is the 3rd third thread I saw derail in the past hour. Nice. N-i-c-e.

There is no such thing as derailing a thread regarding a Kiss pinball machine for 21k.
That was derailed form the get go.

#22 3 months ago
Quoted from JayDee:

And it better be from Shannon Tweed

Bless her heart.....Shannon had a great selection of .99 vhs rental movies at the local grocery store back in the college days....

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#23 3 months ago

No. And I’m a huge F’ing KISS fan.

#24 3 months ago

The only way I would pay 21k for this would be if Gene Simmons, Ace Frehley, Paul Stanley and Peter Criss personally delivered to my house in full costume and makeup in the middle of a house party.
Even then they better do something epic like upper deck my toilet so I have a good story to tell.

#25 3 months ago

Nope , not worth anything close to that amount.

#26 3 months ago

for signatures... silly world we live in.

#27 3 months ago

Take a zero off the price and you’d be close to what it is actually worth .

-1
#28 3 months ago

Seems like a small price to pay..

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#29 3 months ago
Quoted from Taxman:

No.
Are these the 50 limited ones they had been selling from the Kiss website? If they were worth it, they would have sold for the $10K to $12K they were asking 3 years ago.
Or are you talking about the old Bally one that was inflated at $4K for years then lost most value after the Stern was released.
Either way, no.

Yeah it’s the Bally one and it is in average ,or slightly better than average, condition for a game from that era . The game is insanely over priced .

#30 3 months ago

Kiss.......... my balls. Hell no.
But I really like the Bally Kiss pinball machine itself.

#31 3 months ago

Yeah Gene Simmons is gonna put his KISS machine in front of his closet door ok.

#32 3 months ago

Hey it's motherfuckin Gene Simmons lol.
Outta the closet he comes.

#33 3 months ago

Ummm. No.

#34 3 months ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Only if we can go back to 1989

Good ‘ole Saskatchewan girl

#35 3 months ago
Quoted from Coindork:

For 21k I better get more than just a Kiss if you know what I'm sayin.

You’ll be getting more than a Kiss... you’ll be getting the shaft.

#36 3 months ago

Hell no it’s not worth 21K. Notice it’s just the plastics signed....I have an original playfield signed by Ace and Peter....just need Paul and Gene.

When I brought it to Ace he was like what the hell? He looked at me and said where do you want me to sign it. I told him to sign it anywhere you want as I am sure have signed one of these before. He looked at me shook his head and said this a first.

Interestingly enough when I got Peter to sign he said the same thing as Ace....he had never signed one.

It was all about getting the signatures myself which makes this cool to me. As with any signed item it’s mostly the item itself that has value...and the more rare and unique/one of a kind signed item can be very valuable to collectors.

I probably do have a one of a kind item. I have seen cabinets that have been signed......but there are several of those. Backglasses too...lots of those out there.

#37 3 months ago

I looked at the add and he states it is the 22nd made in the run. WRONG.

Bally made over 17,000 KISS machines and his serial number EK11022 makes it the 10,022th made, putting it in the middle.

Wish it were in the middle of a road and run over by a truck then somebody could lick it up.

#38 3 months ago

Also the seller mentions that there are 2 numbers lower than his registered on the internet pinball serial number database as some sort of proof that he has something rare . Games are registered on that site by owners of the games . Plenty of people that own pinball machines do not know about that site , register their games there or even care . It’s a neat site but it can’t be used as a gauge for the amount of specific games that are remaining. Also I have had duplicates of Bally games from that era that have had different color inserts in areas and nothing I had was rare or special . It is my understanding that they changed colors on inserts because it’s what they had in stock and wanted to get games out the door .

#39 3 months ago

Does anyone care about serial numbers unless its something fancy like serial number 1?

Something like 666 Iron Maiden would be cool too.

#40 3 months ago

Everything is only worth what someone wants to pay for it.
If it finds a buyer, than it was worth it.
To me - nope

#41 3 months ago

Picture showing a sample of how a serial # 10000 (and up) was originally punched in the KISS cabinets: "EKI1xxxx"

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#42 3 months ago

Each signature if verified is worth about $1000 given its on the game. Much less for an autographed picture.
Value of game based on condition with signatures would be about $6-7k tops.
This price would require a signed appraisal and receipt.

#43 3 months ago

Didn't they try this same scam on the recently released Stern Kiss LE?

Even the guy that owns all this junk is probably laughing at that offer.

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#44 3 months ago

$21K is psychotic.

#45 3 months ago
Quoted from Mistermoberg:

$21K is psychotic.

Wtf
I thought you bailed...

#46 3 months ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Wtf
I thought you bailed...

I thought you didn’t care...

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