Congrats! Must say while not always the case it Does say a lot about a game design when All models share the same enjoyability and gameplay without compromise. Pirates owners win no matter which model which is a design success in my book.

If the demand is high enough charge more and get them out the door....

As others have said I think JJP wants to move onto more affordable and profitable games. Wonka is an example of that, Pirate's isn't. I would expect to see more games like Wonka in the future meaning slightly less mechanical features / toys compared to past titles but still the same focus on build and code quality.

Hello. Im looking for a NIB CE from a distributor, does anyone know where I can get one?
Thank you!

I think those are as extinct as the dinosaurs of past years.....

There is a CE listed on this site, umm...for like 24k though.

Or a LE NIB would be great too...

I haven't seen one of those listed for eons...

HUO are starting at 12/13K....

I don't think this is the case at all, or ever will be, but I'd wait for TPF and MGC. If there ever would be new production, you'd hear about it then...maybe. And IF.

Would you pay 22 if you had the money? Is it worth it? (Considering JJP very well never make another CE run)

Don't expect another CE run as the were limited to 200 and all sold. I suggest a slow hunt for an LE. You have to be patient and willing to pay the premium but that game is worth the upcharge in my opinion.

Well, it's definitely unique!

I'd still wait and see if in a month or so, anything is announced.

Really, the game as a standard, up to a CE, is fantastic.

If I had the money, 22K, I'd hunt for an LE and another game, frankly. Unless you REALLY have the money!

But I need it to be NIB, and there are none of either (LE or CE) I have searched like crazy for a month
...only option (NIB) is this CE @ 22k...and I havent seen another, let alone at a lower price...

Don’t give up, I know a guy who just found a NIB CE overseas for $15,500 shipping included.

Definitely less than 199 shots left it would seem!

No. No production pin is worth that much. It was $10k new just a year ago, which is pretty much the most any new pin ever cost. If you want one real bad just buy one for $12k. Unless you print money for a living do not pay $10k more for a cardboard box

I have to agree here. Probably my favorite game in my collection currently, but I would not pay $22k. No need for NIB if that is the premium, HUO is more than fine.

Actually it was 12500 new for the CE

That's right. I was talking about the LE, was a little mixed up. Still advise no way for $22k.

I would never pay more than NIB price for any game. To think that some people might pay double is absolutely insane.

.....welcome to the hobby? How much do you think mid 90s William's games sold for new in box?

Not a good comparison in my opinion.

....welcome to the thread? Sorry, were we talking about 25 year old games?...jeez.

No kidding.

Daaaaamn....so if I want a Wonka in 2043, it'll cost me $25,000! Better buy now at $7500!

No because likely like WOZ JJP will still be making them. Don't honestly think #jorant was trying to be snarky he was just (I think) pointing out that most never thought the CV, TZ, BBB, etc we bought back in the day for $1100 would be worth 10-20k now. Add to that if they were still in the box well you can see what some of those crazy prices look like. Like "some" fine wines if you're willing and daring enough to put a game on ice you could have a win. Mostly not though.

If someone "needs" a game to be NIB to be happy all I have to say is good luck to them.

Which games will be of the Data East vintage?

Yeah, I felt he was just making a metaphor. Seemed to have good intentions!

Maybe that dude selling the POTC CE for 24K should leave it boxed....

Actually Dan the owner of that game was over at my house yesturday playing mine so his is still in the box available. As for the Data East, If you have a DE King Kong you might be over POTC money. Can happen with Any low production great game.

While I don't think Pirates will be rerun I do question the delays with releasing new code for the game. Could JJP be timing a new big code update with a TPF announcement that the game is being rerun?

At this point that would be my Guess. In an awesome way Keith is a perfectionist so I suspect he is using the time he has to release a typical value added code update vs a simple bug fix. Plus a smart marketing move to present at the show and possibly have Eric illustrate the upgrades though unlikely.

Are these upgrades just a rumor?

JJP really hasn't released any code updates in a while. I suppose they could release a few at TPF along side the network update feature.

It was reported by many JJP Beta customers that the pre-code is being tested by them though not complete with his final magic. Again all just a guess but going on past history Keith has never left a game anything less than a masterpiece.

Except when he was forced to, like WOF.

The game isn’t being re-run.

Hearing mixed things on this.. I had a Distro tell me POTC would be run again this year.. Time will tell.

Multiple people have heard the opposite from distubtors, and recently, so what's the deal? Lol

I have no input on whether or not thr game will be re-run but COME ON WITH THE CODE UPDATES! Elvira has had 3 updates THIS WEEK, and that’s been out for far less time

Its almost like Keith Johnson is working on another unreleased game that is coming out soon.....

arggh!! lol

Mo gold coins. Mo gold coins!!!!

Just the nature of the beast. One new game on deck, Wonka still in it's prime, and Pirates a setting sail.

They'll do us right me hardies, just have faith lad!

And not to be a Debbie downer, but if you found (or bought) a NIB at any price, there is a very reasonable (high) chance you might find an unwanted surprise awaiting you. If you must have one, I'd suggest an HUO that is stated to have "zero playfield problems" and inspect accordingly. Even though very, very few were made, they do pop up now and then......

I'm going to have a game by Eric at some point, sadly POTCCE was not meant to be for me.....($12.5k was the NIB price for CE...already stated I think)

Let’s see, they are moving the entire operation to Chicago and trying to release 2 games this year while making Wonka’s and Woz on the small line.

You really think POTC is a top priority at this point?
Shit, they are still sending New PF’s out to everyone who had damage and I’ve heard that it is quite a large number of people impacted by this.

Hard to believe there is still much demand for NIB WOZ after all these years as JJP has cranked out thousands of them!

I can still see the appeal considering so many ones had issues (light boards specifically). It’s really mid red ruby (or maybe beginning of RR) and on that JJP can say the games work as expected.

Now the yellow brick road edition - what complete garbage that was.

JJP may want to test the waters. Maybe they should come out and say they will do another run of X pirates at Y price. And if they get enough orders at the right price they move forward. Customers happy, JJP happy. If they dont get enough orders Everyone moves on.

Really great playfield, game is fun to shoot.

WOZ is bigger than pinball as we know it.

Jack put me in the forum before production started. That summer I had older couples stopping in my business to see what a pinball machine is and what they bought. They found my arcade because of the forum. There are WOZ conventions, clubs, and everything. People snarf up anything WOZ related.

And I thought KISS with the coffins, toilet seats, phones, and stuff was out of hand.

LTG : )

Maybe the Stern “studio” model?

I agree with that comment but with the move and their focus to get two machines out this year it just seems like bad timing to attempt another POTC run with all the issues they had with the build and parts supply.

Who knows what will go down with the move.

And the crazy thing about all of that? I have still only been able to play this game in maybe 2/3 locations in a tristate region that has heavy ass amounts of pinball.

Pinball saturation ain't shit what it once was.... I can only find games in very specific breweries, and large retro arcades. No pizza shops, no convenience stores.... It would be nuts to think of walking into a WaWa, Sheetz, whatever, and seeing pins like I used to at 7/11......

And did somebody say.....

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I do agree that Jack will build this game if he can (regardless of if it was a pain or not). The cost will def be 11.5 or higher and likely year(s) out but Jack will build it again IF the license doesn't cause a conflict (IMO).