You can't count the total time since JJP had issues with WoZ and Hobbit getting them up to speed, but the gap between Woz and Hobbit was 3 years, while the gap between Hobbit and Dialed In release was only one year, and they're on track to release jjPotC with a one year gap again, so JJP is on the cusp of getting two games a year out, which Jack stated as a short term goal. They're making rapid progress now.

WWE LE was a sellout theme that can't sell out. Ironic.

That smoky mountain BBQ with the pickles is pretty tasty, though...

If the earnings stay consistent, it would be about 4 years on the route I help with for a JJP pin. Stern Premium about a year less. But the problem is that except for WoZ, both the other JJP pin earnings have dropped off substantially after the first 6 months or so. WoZ is the only one that keeps earning at a consistent level.

I will say, though, that the pinball renaissance keeps pulling more people in on location as word gets out about new pins in the wild, and total earnings go up as a result. So as long as prices don't keep accelerating, the location market should continue widening.

If you have to justify the price, you can't really afford it. Every penny is in the machine. No corners cut. Just ignore the idiotic headphone jack placement at your knees.

We'll have an LE up for 7800 soon.

Not with the real Cliffies they're shipping with now, they haven't.

Hold on a sec, I'll make a graph...

Because unless you have monkey arms, it's out of easy reach, especially compared to the WoZ/Hobbit placement right in the coin door. Also, on location it's TERRIBLE because it's the perfect height for little kids that like to play with buttons or jam whatever food or snot they have in convenient holes. It's a solution for a problem that didn't exist and is objectively less player friendly than the coin door placement they had.

But really, in 2018 why do we have physical jacks at all? Why not Bluetooth headphone connections?

The value-add extras of the LE make that impossible with JJP. They have the most fairly-priced LEs out there with actual things you want.

There is NO WAY, none, ZERO - that coin door cost 10x more with the headphone jack cut out of it. Total BS. If they got that quote it's time to cut that supplier loose. I've done a lot of manufacturing in China, and that just didn't happen in any reasonable scenario. A coin door from China is something like $40 (no idea what their quantities are, but it could be even less if they order a lot and warehouse it). You're saying that adding a jack cutout (we're not talking about the electronics, that's needed regardless of where the jack is placed) makes it $400? No. Nu-uh. If the cost of the jack placement coming in at 10x as much is the reason they ditched it, they need to get a new supply chain manager, they've failed at their job.

And the new cabinet jack placement objectively sucks for user convenience and on location with terrible kids that it's the perfect height for.

Even 1000 isn't THAT low volume, and given that Hobbit and WoZ are still using the better headphone placement in the door, they're clearly still buying them. Plus, the kicker is that they sold and are still selling those machines for LESS money with the "10x more expensive coin doors." Plus, Jack indicated in direct conversation I had with him last year that the headphone placement was what Pat wanted when I asked WHY it was moved to that god-awful placement. His response to my question about why Pat moved it - he simply shrugged (then I think he said something about Pat getting what he wants, but I'm not 100% sure on that part of the conversation, it was almost a year ago). From the horse's mouth, so cost was not the issue - it was Pat's design CHOICE.

And if cost were the issue (it's not - debunked above) for the coin door, then it SHOULD be a simple cutout for the headphone jack plate in the coin door instead of all those tiny holes drilled in the door for the lights, etc. Then that plate can be assembled in a separate universal process that works across all their machines. Plug that preassembled plate into the coin door receptacle above the lock and viola!

Hey, sure, I'll freelance design and manufacturing setup with my Chinese peeps for JJP, but I'm not doing it for free. And besides, JJP has an engineering team, so why is that even NECESSARY?

There's a brief shot of it on one of the reveal videos. It's the Black Pearl ship in a giant bottle with the ocean and the ship (bottle?) gently rocks back and forth. Pretty neat, but the AfM LE one is still the best so far, hands down.

Yeah, it's weird that they have TWO Depp solo versions and only one Davy Jones. A Depp solo one, a Depp/Will/Elizabeth one in a triangle orientation, and a Davy Jones might have been nice for variety.

IS there an LE topper? I wasn't aware one was planned...I thought it was only the CE.

I hope CGC has at least upped the LE topper bar for JJP a LITTLE. It's awesome, and JJP deserves to be competitive.

I really think that will not help their CE sales and "specialness" - I can't see them doing it, and I don't think they should (though I would like to have the topper, too).