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Is it worth restoring a Bally Lost World?

By PantherCityPins

1 year ago


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#1 1 year ago

I picked up a Bally Lost World today for $400. Honestly when I got there (2 hour drive) the game wasn’t as nice as it looked in the pictures. Way more playfield wear than I thought and badly flaking backglass. Anyhow, since I drove two hours and it looked really sad I bought it as a possible project down the line.

The art on this game is super cool but I know it doesn’t get great gameplay reviews. If I were to restore it, new playfield or overlay (CPR isn’t currently making the playfields), new backglass and cabinet repaint with pinball Pimp stencils, what do you think it would be worth?

I’d probably have to get $2500 or so for it to break even if I put a playfield in it which I don’t mind just breaking even on this project, I love these old Bally machines.

Boards aren’t terribly bad but I have no idea if it boots or not.

Any thoughts?

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#2 1 year ago

I would pass it on to someone who wants it. 2500 for a Lost World? I guess everything is crazy but not where I'm from.

#3 1 year ago

I tried looking for a price on a high-end resto of a Lost World, but none have sold in the past couple years. It would take the right kind of a buyer to want to spend that kinda dough on a Lost World. So from a monetary perspective, not worth the restore.

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#4 1 year ago

That playfield isn’t terrible at all. Give it a clean. Do touch ups if you want, and just play it.

#5 1 year ago

Just make it operational and have fun. 400 bucks is a night out.

#6 1 year ago
Quoted from mad_carl:

That playfield isn’t terrible at all. Give it a clean. Do touch ups if you want, and just play it.

Yeah, I was wondering about that as well. There’s some pretty gnarly wear at one of the saucers, might try my hand at some repair there.

Kind of trying to decide between a rat rod kind of player grade reclamation project vs a restore.

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#7 1 year ago

Yeah, agree. $400 plus a few hours work and you’ll have a really cool little game you can easily flick on for much more than your investment.

Only a truly insane person would waste time doing up a Lost World. Cough. Cough.

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#8 1 year ago

Don't do an overlay. Those don't last.

The playfield looks fine as-is for an average example. Not every game has to look like it just came out of the box. Personally, I don't think the title is worth doing a high-end restore on.

I'd say just clean it, do the necessary repairs & bulletproof it, shop it, and then enjoy it and/or flip it.

#9 1 year ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

Not every game has to look like it just came out of the box.

This 100%.

I could really give a shit what a game looks like - just make sure the flippers are snappy, the pops and slings are rebuilt and snappy, polish up the playfield as good as it gets and have fun.

FWIW the reason I did mine up - it cost me next to nothing, had a mint backglass and plastics, and I was doing two other yellow painted games, so hey why not.

I have been using it for a Classics tournament game for a few years now (in its ratty old state, before it’s recent restore). Remove the captive ball (so you can’t get extra balls) and soup it up, and it’s a challenging game. Not easy to get 5x bonus happening on a fast playing Lost World.

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#10 1 year ago

A Hardtop will eventually get released for this title, especially since it is not a licensed game. Play it until then.

#11 1 year ago

I remember when I was 12 playing Lost World. Got so bored flicking it from saucer to saucer, I eventually walked away. Had another one a couple of years ago because I thought it would pair well with Paragon. Paragon stays, Lost World went quickly.

I say clean it up, play it, move it on. BTW your playfield was in WAY better shape than mine was. No need to do anything, unless you feel motivated with some touchup.

#12 1 year ago

Honestly from pictures I’ve seems of playfields on this game and from my own experience ( the one I owned had more ware and shit “touch ups”) this one isn’t bad at all. I think that will clean up nicely.

CPR did announce a while back they were doing Lost World playfields but I wouldn’t bother unless you're going all out with the rest of the game. But like other said you’ll likely not get that money back out of it if you decide to sell or looking for a flip.

No it’s not a sought after game and there were a ton of them made so it’s not considered rare but it still a fun game to flip and the art is awesome regardless of what the elitists say. For $400 I’d definitely grab another in that shape. Especially in todays market.

#13 1 year ago

Regardless of what you do, get that battery off of the MPU now.

#14 1 year ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Yeah, agree. $400 plus a few hours work and you’ll have a really cool little game you can easily flick on for much more than your investment.
Only a truly insane person would waste time doing up a Lost World. Cough. Cough.
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I’m with Rotordave on this one.

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#15 1 year ago

I would just clean it and get it 100% working. Not nearly as blown out as most of this titles is! Pretty fun simple game but for me this title is mainly very cool art!

#16 1 year ago
Quoted from Billc479:

Regardless of what you do, get that battery off of the MPU now.

A little late for that...the battery already leaked and damaged the board. It looks repairable, though, if you want to take the time. Although these days it's sometimes less of a hassle to pop in a new MPU for $150 or so.

#17 1 year ago

Lost worlds not an A list game, but it's still pinball. But youll have a solid players game after you hit it with some novus 2 & rebuild the mechs.

As others have said, not every game needs to brought back to showroom new condition. Nothing wrong with a good players condition game.

#18 1 year ago

If you’re near Dayton/Cincy OH area I’d give you your money back plus gas and finders fee. I like to buy cheaper solid states to practice board repair and troubleshooting on. Figured it would help if/when I start moving up to higher end games.

I’m sure you could make a few bucks passing it along if you don’t feel like putting in the time.

#19 1 year ago

As others have said, I'd clean it up, get it playing good, and then play it. Ragtag games are awesome. There is something liberating about an honest game. Play it until you are sick of it, and then more it on out.

#20 1 year ago
Quoted from ringonu:

If you’re near Dayton/Cincy OH area I’d give you your money back plus gas and finders fee. I like to buy cheaper solid states to practice board repair and troubleshooting on. Figured it would help if/when I start moving up to higher end games.
I’m sure you could make a few bucks passing it along if you don’t feel like putting in the time.

Hey thanks! Unfortunately I’m WAAAAY down in Texas from you!

#21 1 year ago

Is it worth it no. Then again if you did you’d have a really really nice one!

#22 1 year ago

I restored my Lost World and posted the process here on Pinside. If you look around you can find the posts somewhere here.

I had a great time doing it. New CPR playfield, repainted cabinet, the works. May not be worth it to most people here , but it was worth it for me.

Isn't that really all that matters? I say go for it.

#23 1 year ago

I purchased one years ago for $100. Parts Machine. Roached PF and cabinet painted black. It was nicknamed Lost Cause. If it’s a grail game..do it. Please understand it would most likely not return the time and money spent. This is not one of the more collectible games of that era. Looker? Yes. Player? Ok.

#24 1 year ago

I see there’s a translite available from an eBay seller, has anyone used these? Might be a cheaper alternative to a CPR backglass for a player grade game.

#25 1 year ago
Quoted from PantherCityPins:

I see there’s a translite available from an eBay seller, has anyone used these? Might be a cheaper alternative to a CPR backglass for a player grade game.

If it's classic arcades, I'd recommend looking for other options. His products don't usually meet expectations.

#26 1 year ago

I actually used classic arcade translite and it really looked good in my Lost World

If I knew how to add a link to the posts I did during the restore I'd link it, but I don't know how to do that. Maybe you can search my user name to find it.

#27 1 year ago

I've owned 2 Lost World's over the last 22 years and the stupidest thing I ever did in 2002 was to pick up a dead but cosmetically nice example at an operator's warehouse for $400 and passed on a Stern Gazer for the same price. Lost World is the only Bally SS out of 50 I had that I parted one out.

Clean her up, get it as a good as players game can be and sell or play it. It's a great looker but as a player, it's weak.

#28 1 year ago

Back in my earlier days I picked one up close to me. Playfield was not nearly as good as yours. Can’t recall the cabinet. Just as I had got it done to my ability the person I bought it from called me and wanted to know how it went. Two days later he came and bought it back. Sentimental issues as it was he deceased brothers. Beautiful game. Not good enough at pinball to know a great player or not but it sure is a good looking machine!!

#29 1 year ago
Quoted from PantherCityPins:

I see there’s a translite available from an eBay seller, has anyone used these? Might be a cheaper alternative to a CPR backglass for a player grade game.

My lost world has a glass from bg resto. Looks great, but note that his glasses a bit darker when back lit than the original glasses.

#30 1 year ago

Lost World, the crappiest game in the world !!! (and than, check my avatar )

#31 1 year ago

I do say every pin is it worth to get restored

#32 1 year ago

I have one that I restored many years ago with an NOS playfield from Pinball Resource (125 dollars) and plastics and later a CPR backglass. It was my first machine in 96 and wouldn't part with it. I get the rule set is kind of lame but I keep it for nostalgia and it is a challenging game to get a high score on. I bought the game for $450 back then and you could restore one on the cheap then but it clearly is a different story now.

#33 1 year ago

You got an NOS playfield for $125? What a steal!

#34 1 year ago

Fix it up without putting too much money into, play it and if you
like it, restore to your liking. If not, its trading fodder. I've done this
many times, swap my decent fully working pin for a dead but restoreable
one I want more. You're not going to loose for $400.

Got my Lost World three years ago ($100!) and went through it.
Like yours looked ratty but cleaned up nicely and entire investment
was a rubber kit. If a good trade shows up, it'll go to a new home.

#35 1 year ago
Quoted from PantherCityPins:

You got an NOS playfield for $125? What a steal!

In 1996 you could get nice Bally NOS playfields for 125 to 175. I picked up a Harlem, Lost World, Nitro Groundshaker and Future Spa all in that price range. Was way different in those days with no reproductions playfields for the most part.

#36 1 year ago

Wow! Beautiful cabinet restoration. And how did you get the coin door so sparkling clean! I bought my Lost World 'cus it plays fast, I like the backglass art, and it had a new Alltech MPU so I could eventually use it as a cabinet for a custom pin without destroying the existing game. In other words plugging an a BSOS daughter board to the MPU. Then I can play Lost World or my own custom playfield depending on which one is installed in the cabinet.

Quoted from trilogybeer:

I’m with Rotordave on this one.
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#37 1 year ago

Just following up have you decided if you're going to redo your lost world or not?

#38 1 year ago
Quoted from Billc479:

Regardless of what you do, get that battery off of the MPU now.

Exactly!

#39 1 year ago
Quoted from timab2000:

Just following up have you decided if you're going to redo your lost world or not?

At this point my plan is to do a players type game. I don’t think a new playfield is financially feasible for this game. It does need a new backglass or translite so I’ll be doing that. Probably will need an Altek MPU or similar. I’m debating on a cab repaint, probably will get it flipping first and then decide. Budget for the whole thing is $600 or so which will put me $1000 into the machine total. Thinking it would then be worth something around $1200ish which is fine, I’m just looking more to gain more experience in working on old Bally machines and I’m a D&D nerd so I like the theme.

#40 1 year ago
Quoted from PantherCityPins:

Probably will need an Altek MPU or similar.

I don't think so. That MPU looks pretty darn good compared to some of the ones I've brought back to life. Clean up the corrosion, maybe some minor repair and you should be back in business.

#41 1 year ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

If it's classic arcades, I'd recommend looking for other options. His products don't usually meet expectations.

His products suck, especially the playfield overlays.

#42 1 year ago

This guy is on crack

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