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Is it possible to mod a Stern Star Trek Pro into a Premium pinball machine?

By tampa12

3 months ago


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“is it possible to retro fit Star Trek Pro into a Premium Pinball machine?”

  • Yes, worth it! 2 votes
    6%
  • NO Fkn WAY! Can't be done 18 votes
    50%
  • Yes, but not worth it. 16 votes
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#1 3 months ago

According to pinball expert Todd Tuckey from TNT amusements a tech can upgrade and retro fit a Star Trek Pro into a Premium pinball machine if boards were added. I think a wire harness is needed, new premium apron to fit laser and kick back too. Is it possible to add the upgrade gadgets from prem to a pro, and if so if I bought Star trek pro for 6k and retro fit into a premium would I save money or lose money since the prem is going for 9k currently. Note: I'm not talking about the cabinet and RGB lights upgrades, only the tech gadgets like laser light show, drain lane kick-back, Vengeance ship upgrades, maybe upgrade metal wire-forms if it's a simple swap out from the plastic ones. if anyone has info if this tech upgrade can be done please share it below, thanks. see here-


Star Trek (Pro) Star Trek (Premium/LE)
edits: grammar

#2 3 months ago

Why?

I heard you can convert a VW beetle into a Porsche 911 - can you help me there?

#3 3 months ago
Quoted from pins4u:

Why?
I heard you can convert a VW beetle into a Porsche 911 - can you help me there?

Yep. It's easy:

ebay.com link: itm
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#4 3 months ago
Quoted from tampa12:

upgrade and retro fit a Star Trek Pro into a Premium pinball machine if boards were added

Why?

Star Trek is one of the Sterns where there is very little difference between the Pro and the other ones. (Play wise). Most people wouldn’t even know the difference.

Just enjoy what you have …

rd

#5 3 months ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Why?
Star Trek is one of the Sterns where there is very little difference between the Pro and the other ones. (Play wise). Most people wouldn’t even know the difference.
Just enjoy what you have …
rd

yup owned both the le and the pro, not worth the trouble whatsoever

#6 3 months ago

I mean in theory I guess you COULD however, probably not worth it as others have mentioned. In addition to what the others have posted, the premium and pro have a different outlane configuration, the premium has an extra insert for the kickback not seen on the pro, so although I guess you could add the hardware and software, it would require playfield modification by drilling holes for the guide vs the posts on the pro and you’d have to live without the insert.

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#7 3 months ago

No way it’s cheaper than just buying a premium

#8 3 months ago

A Star Trek “Promium”?

#9 3 months ago

#10 3 months ago

I’m not sure I see the point. If you just really like to mod and work on games, sure, have fun. I think the main mech is the left side VUK.

#11 3 months ago

In answer to your post. No.

I've seen people do things (shudders). They buy every LE/Premium part, and add everything that they can to a playfield, but the fact remains... the playfields are different, the software expects different configurations.

You end up with an oddity that isn't worth what a Premium is, despite your having spent more money than just selling your pro and buying a premium.

Lipstick on a duck.

However, it's your machine. You can do things to it! Go crazy! Spend your time and money on an impossible dream that makes everyone around you think you are insane!

That would be a totally worth it use of your time!

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#12 3 months ago
Quoted from ViperVS:

Yep. It's easy:
ebay.com link: itm
ebay.com link: itm

#13 3 months ago
Quoted from pins4u:

Why?
I heard you can convert a VW beetle into a Porsche 911 - can you help me there?

Those are 2 different VW and Porsche. A better analogy would be Ford mustang to Ford mustang GT.

#14 3 months ago
Quoted from ccbiggsoo7:

yup owned both the le and the pro, not worth the trouble whatsoever

if you owned pro and prem Star trek pins, do you recommend Star Trek Pro for $6,500 or prem $8,500k? Premium is hard to find under 8k.

#15 3 months ago

LOL Promium. I'm really not going to turn a pro into a prem but I think that would be interesting to see if anyone did that, since Todd Tuckey mentioned that in his video I thought this would make an interesting post. I really hoped to find someone that tried it.

#16 3 months ago
Quoted from tampa12:

LOL Promium. I'm really not going to turn a pro into a prem but I think that would be interesting to see if anyone did that, since Todd Tuckey mentioned that in his video I thought this would make an interesting post. I really hoped to find someone that tried it.

It's sometimes possible to shoehorn in certain premium features into pro games, as long as they aren't driven by came code.

There have been significant efforts to add spinners into certain pro games, for example. There's a big thread somewhere about that.

#17 3 months ago
Quoted from tampa12:

Star Trek Pro for $6,500 or prem $8,500k?

I would take a pro and $2k savings all day long.

#18 3 months ago

There is a premium pending at $10350 in the marketplace

#19 3 months ago

Here is the video of the laser unit I designed and installed in my Pro that I sold several months ago, it is initiated by the flasher on the Vengenance ship, a timer triggers the time the laser is on and is adjustable, you cannot add the laser unit and have the Pro factory MPU initiate it, the laser parts are in the $300 range + a timer and relay.

#20 3 months ago
Quoted from tomtest:

Here is the video of the laser unit I designed and installed in my Pro that I sold several months ago, it is initiated by the flasher on the Vengenance ship, a timer triggers the time the laser is on and is adjustable, you cannot add the laser unit and have the Pro factory MPU initiate it, the laser parts are in the $300 range + a timer and relay.

WOW, very clever, thanks for sharing. This is what I was curious about if anyone done a prem upgrade. Is it possible to add a kickback?

#21 3 months ago
Quoted from tampa12:

WOW, very clever, thanks for sharing. This is what I was curious about if anyone done a prem upgrade. Is it possible to add a kickback?

Not sure about the kickback, never looked into it.

#22 3 months ago
Quoted from tomtest:

Not sure about the kickback, never looked into it.

After watching your video I'm sold on upgrading.
Fantastic job with the laser show, are they still available? If so can you share the link. Do you live near Tampa FL? I traded my Bride of Pinbot for Star trek for extra 2,500. I plan to upgrade... Premium apron, add kickback, laser, 3 LED mod ships, software premium update, metal wire rails, cliffy ramp protectors, color DMD, beam me up diffusers, shaker, dim backbox led kit and kickback lane curve plate. Might make an interesting video. I have 10+ years tech experience. I'll share the video on this thread when it's complete this summer. Star trek Promium like Mr Tantrum said

#23 3 months ago

I feel like you're really underestimating the numerous small differences in the game. Like clear inserts vs colored inserts for the RGB lighting. How the premium software is expecting to drive a bunch of RGB leds and how they're wired differently than pro lamps. Luckily this was still when Stern made a manual kinda worth a crap and you can figure out a lot of the differences and might be able to make what you need.

#24 3 months ago
Quoted from TreyBo69:

I feel like you're really underestimating the numerous small differences in the game. Like clear inserts vs colored inserts for the RGB lighting. How the premium software is expecting to drive a bunch of RGB leds and how they're wired differently than pro lamps. Luckily this was still when Stern made a manual kinda worth a crap and you can figure out a lot of the differences and might be able to make what you need.

True I agree. I don't expect full transformation but Promium conversion like Mr Tantrum said. Pro goes for about 6500 and premium 8500 so if I can upgrade laser, kickback, color DMD, metal wire rails, 3 LED mod ships, warp ramp LEDs, I estimate the cost about $800 to 900. The biggest challenge is the kickback but laser upgrade was done already as seen posted above. A fun challenge makes for an interesting video.

#25 3 months ago
Quoted from tomtest:

Here is the video of the laser unit I designed and installed in my Pro that I sold several months ago, it is initiated by the flasher on the Vengenance ship, a timer triggers the time the laser is on and is adjustable, you cannot add the laser unit and have the Pro factory MPU initiate it, the laser parts are in the $300 range + a timer and relay.

-Can you link where you got the laser and parts, please for the pinball mod community?

#26 3 months ago
Quoted from tomtest:

Here is the video of the laser unit I designed and installed in my Pro that I sold several months ago, it is initiated by the flasher on the Vengenance ship, a timer triggers the time the laser is on and is adjustable, you cannot add the laser unit and have the Pro factory MPU initiate it, the laser parts are in the $300 range + a timer and relay.

Quoted from tomtest:

Here is the video of the laser unit I designed and installed in my Pro that I sold several months ago, it is initiated by the flasher on the Vengenance ship, a timer triggers the time the laser is on and is adjustable, you cannot add the laser unit and have the Pro factory MPU initiate it, the laser parts are in the $300 range + a timer and relay.

I think I found it and order LASER green low, it's the only laser they had left. http://pinball-mods.com/oscom/star-trek-laser-upgrade-p-40.html
and TIMER / RELAY I found on amazon, please let me know if I ordered the correct stuff- https://amzn.to/3KXC5eV I'm in about $100
Do i need to drill a hole in the apron?

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