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Is it possible to convert a DMD pinball to a custom one?

By JDee

9 years ago


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    #1 9 years ago

    Hi there!
    Is it possible to convert a DMD pinball to a custom one?
    I have a WCS 94 and I'd like to transform it in a new pinball, is that even remotely possible?

    I'd like to keep the same rules, replacing only the dmd animations and the sounds.
    I'm a pinball noob, so please be kind if I sound silly to you
    Thanks!

    #2 9 years ago

    I have replaced sounds on a wpc with a switch mp3 trigger board.

    DMD animation I have not tackled.

    #3 9 years ago

    Mhm.. interesting.
    I knew that workaround but even if solves some problems, it creates some others. Am I right?
    Do you have a link to see your project? Or do you have some info?

    I saw a guy doing a really good job with a the ghostbusters pinball with the mp3 trigger board, but it is not a dmd!

    #4 9 years ago

    Yes, it is absolutely possible! With the use of a new controller board, like the P-ROC ( http://www.pinballcontrollers.com/ ) you can take any WPC or Stern DMD game and make it your own. Take a look around in the pinball controllers forum. There is lots of info there.

    http://www.pinballcontrollers.com/forum/index.php

    #5 9 years ago

    Thank you Nelly! That was awesome!

    #6 9 years ago

    Wow I saw your Buffy machine man! Jaw dropping!
    Is it difficult to program that p roc?

    I'm not an engineer or a programmer, so I'd like to have a really simple interface.. Something like "if this than that"..
    Does it have it?

    #7 9 years ago

    Thanks! It has been a long road, but a very satisfying one!

    Unfortunately, the programming is not as simple as your example. That being said, it is not impossible to learn and there is plenty of help out there to get you going. There are many who have had little to no programming skills that have developed their own code. Everyone is different in what they find easy to pick up and understand, but if you have the time and patience to devote to learning about it, it is something that almost anyone can do.

    There are a few key words in there. "time" and "patience". For someone with zero programming background like yourself it can become overwhelming very quickly, especially if you don't have a lot of time to devote to it. I was in the same boat when I started my project. I had zero programming skills and not a lot of time to develop them. What is great about the P-ROC community is that pretty much everyone there is willing to help in one way or another. Because of my time constraints I decided early on that if I wanted my project to be completed before I died, that I would need some help. I ended up seeking the help of another forum member (MOcean) to aid in the programming of my project. This turned out to be the best decision I could have ever made as my project would not be anywhere near what it is today if it wasn't for him. My point with all this is, don't let your lack of knowledge be a deterrent from starting your project. Even if you decide that the programming thing is not for you, there is likely others out there that would be willing to help you through it. It is quite satisfying to see and play something that you have had a hand in creating. I would strongly encourage anyone that is interested in this kind of thing to at least give it a shot. At a bare minimum, spend some time on the pinball controllers forum and read about others projects and see what they have gone through.

    #8 9 years ago

    Also check out the under-development Mission Pinball Framework. It's looking very good already and will support both the P-ROC and FAST controllers.

    #9 9 years ago

    Nelly and the boys here have the answers...I can't add much.
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    #10 9 years ago

    thanks anyway chris!

    #11 9 years ago
    Quoted from JDee:

    Hi there!
    Is it possible to convert a DMD pinball to a custom one?

    Conversion is very hard. It depends on how firm they are in their beliefs.

    #12 9 years ago

    P-ROC is fairly straightforward to use. Even with limited programming experience, you should be able to create something out of the other shared projects.

    There are also great instructions for creating DMD animations provided you have digital source media

    #13 9 years ago
    Quoted from Noahs_Arcade:

    There are also great instructions for creating DMD animations provided you have digital source media

    do you have a link? thanks

    #14 9 years ago

    http://www.pinballcontrollers.com/forum/index.php?topic=224

    I haven't tried it myself. I'm waiting to gather more source material before I get the free trial of the Camtasia software

    #15 9 years ago

    Even if you don't use the excellent lcd vga dmd fork of pyprocgame for the p-roc (*cough cough* blatant self promotion), you can still use free tools like GifCam to capture video. It does essentially what camtasia does, and I have no issues with it.

    Here's a thread I posted on my video capture/conversion workflow for the Buffy pin:

    http://www.pinballcontrollers.com/forum/index.php?topic=1028

    These tools work almost identically if you're prepping video for a traditional dmd.

    #16 9 years ago

    Oh, man. That looks awesome! Thanks!

    #17 9 years ago

    Sure thing. Bear in mind that those videos are old and things look better now Even still, the work flow is the same.

    If you have questions about anything feel free to post them here, there, or in PM.

    #18 9 years ago

    I think someone converted a JM (DMD) to the matrix, so it is possible.

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    #19 9 years ago

    thanks to every one.
    if you know how to rewrite rules, sounds and dmd animations call me, I can pay.

    #20 9 years ago
    Quoted from JDee:

    if you know how to rewrite rules, sounds and dmd animations call me, I can pay

    I can, but I'm not cheap.

    #21 9 years ago

    Same.

    #22 9 years ago

    He was kidding lol
    Hope you were too

    Anyway, Noah made me discover this https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/acdc-display-and-modify-dot-matrix-images

    That's what I'd like to use... Original ruleset/roms (which means: p-roc isn't the best choice for me..)
    I'd like to replace only dmd animations and sounds so it is a fast and cheap way to do it. If we have to do a scripting from scratch it's a lot more difficult and expensive..

    If you can do what I want, I can pay you

    #23 9 years ago

    Yeah, I was kidding, though I don't know how you'd know that.

    In practice I tend to be pretty cheap. Ask Nelly: I work for parts, except when I'm working for free and releasing things on GitHub.

    I agree that browser would be better if he could get it working for WPC games. I remain surprised that there isn't a well known process to change sounds/images in wpc ROMs that would run on PinMAME --then since I can run PinMAME on a p-roc, I'd be very happy.

    #24 9 years ago
    Quoted from Mocean:

    In practice I tend to be pretty cheap. Ask Nelly: I work for parts, except when I'm working for free and releasing things on GitHub.

    This is true and Mocean is worth every penny......err, I mean part!

    #25 9 years ago

    I knew because nobody will say "I'm expensive!" That scares people and makes you lose money

    ..I know right?! we have pinmame but we can't change things.. that's beyond me.
    If I have news I'll let you know

    #26 9 years ago
    Quoted from JDee:

    He was kidding lol
    Hope you were too
    Anyway, Noah made me discover this https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/acdc-display-and-modify-dot-matrix-images
    That's what I'd like to use... Original ruleset/roms (which means: p-roc isn't the best choice for me..)
    I'd like to replace only dmd animations and sounds so it is a fast and cheap way to do it. If we have to do a scripting from scratch it's a lot more difficult and expensive..
    If you can do what I want, I can pay you

    You can't do this with non Stern DMD games at this point. There are no tools for replacing audio and dots in anything else. So if you're looking to do a "simple" re-theme, you'd have to use a Stern game as a base.

    #27 9 years ago

    yeah I wrote it on the previous post..
    I'll wait and pray!

    #28 9 years ago

    I'm more expensive, but worth it

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