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Is greed finally going to kill pinball?

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7 years ago


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#101 7 years ago
Quoted from dotEXE:

Then I know 3 operators who already have one of each ordered, and a distributor who did more Dialed Ins on announcement day than his entire orders for the first half of 2016.
Sorry guys, these machines are flying.

I think you have a good point. Operators are a big part of the equation. Apparently, 60% of Stern's business is export with most of it operator driven. If you take into account the resell value of a used routed game, it's not like they are throwing away $9K. Once the game stop bringing dollars, you can still sell it at a moderate discount.

#102 7 years ago

Pinball died a long time ago. It's the private sector that gives it a pulse.

#103 7 years ago

I originally committed to buying every NIB LE, however with the recent 25-40% increase in cost, bang for the buck,
comes into a new perspective. It's a hobby, not a need, and most collectors , may choose to pass in favor of older nice
Pins. Even when money is not an issue , value , obsessions , and manufacturers believing consumers are stupid,
always results in markets shrinking .

#104 7 years ago
Quoted from Banker:

I originally committed to buying every NIB LE, however with the recent 25-40% increase in cost, bang for the buck,
comes into a new perspective. It's a hobby, not a need, and most collectors , may choose to pass in favor of older nice
Pins. Even when money is not an issue , value , obsessions , and manufacturers believing consumers are stupid,
always results in markets shrinking .

Holy shit, the Banker has spoken negatively about the present state of NIB pinball.....err sort of.

#105 7 years ago
Quoted from Zitt:

Quoted from cooldan: we're having the same kind of discussions over in the UK in our forum, except even gloomier as our £ just plummeted so US-made goods cost us even more. so we go back to discussing livestock and our treasured historical monuments.

I get your not happy with your brexit Euro vs USD... but really you just liked the fact that you could get the machine for cheaper than usa. Now that the Euro is weaker; it's now not cool that you have to pay near what we pay? Seems... off.

what on earth are you talking about? pins have always been cheapest in the US where they're made - in recent years we typically paid the same in pounds as you guys did in dollars for a game (a year ago, a NIB game that was $7000 in US (say) was £7000 in the UK) - and a pound is worth more than a dollar, according to conversion rates. used to be about 1.6, currently only 1.2. all other countries apart from the manufacturing country have to bear the costs for transportation, import tax, customs charges, even currency conversion admin fees.

if your currency is strong, it buys relatively more dollars and makes US products relatively cheaper. my point was that the weak pound makes this already-way-more-expensive-than-in-the-US luxury product another 25-30% more expensive to import, as a pound now buys 25-30% less dollars than it did a few months ago. please let me know if i misunderstood you.

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