I have played Alien a few times but not enough to form an opinion, how is the shots/layout and code?

How come Alien is rated so low on the top100 list?

I’m curious in the code there are two movies are they two separate completely or just how you start out?

That’s like when jjp made YBR Woz more money but took out the cool monkey ball mover.

I’m hoping $7500 plus shipping.

Also hoping they make various tier one with PF display for extra charge.

Best deal imo is/was AFM remake at $6K

Was watching Zack's review of Alien and they gave it a B+

They did love the pin but they said the con was PRICE. They said "8 thousand Dollars..." as if to say that was a lot. I know that was then and now people are dropping $12.5K like it's nothing on GNR CE. but to me $12K is a non-Starter. They both say something like $6500 would have been a good price.

$12K is two Stern pros or a Stern and a Hot wheels or RAZA or two CGC SE (plus shipping).....

$12K is a bit of money and I think it will drive people away in droves.

It ***********Has to be under $10K and better yet under $9K******* IMO

link at the time stamp where they say $8000 (and make it sound like it's somewhat overpriced at that)

I understand what you are saying.

Imo if there is an LE version that costs a good deal more that would be a great distinction and reason to pay more if the put the display in the LE.

What do we think about the reliability and PC hardware on the new game should it be easy to support years in the future? I’m hoping it’s a good selling pin so all involved can profit and continue to support.

It’s just so hard for me to imagine so many pinball manufacturers now that all will survive hope they all do because it’s great to have variety. Unlike 10 years ago when only one manufacturer was making pins.

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That's what I like, I love TWD, I like a serious pinball machine now and then just for something different.

IMO this is a good price, with shipping It’s similar to price of R&M a bit more than a Stern premium closer to a JJP SE which is about right.

Not everyone pays sales tax iirc so you’d need to add $600 for Stern premium. Be around $8k for Stern premium.

Still it’s around the same price as GnR SE almost the same.

I’ve played Alien a handful of times was good shooing but I didn’t really get to know the modes I was just shooting around. But the atmosphere was great and very gritty and dark and unlike most pins even TWD is not that grim. That’s why I got this over say EHOH or LZ.

And I like having different manufacturers in my collection.

Should sell very well in Europe as it’s not subject to the tariff. I’m not sure if Alien is as popular in Europe as it’s a big movie franchise in the US.

My opinion about the PF art and subtracting the PF screen.

I am sure the video screen is helpful and whatnot but it does take away from the art package, the planet is already iffy as far as I'm concerned but when you subtract half of the planet it just looks very meh (I mean the PF + display makes the planet look bad almost rather it was just empty space rather than the planet).

With the display removed at least we can see the whole circle of the planet and even with the ammo inserts it looks more like a typical pinball PF with inserts.

IMO mini displays are better off the PF like in DI or SW that way you can have your cake and eat it too. The display in the PF is a compromise that is good and bad.

you should watch some of the videos to see what it looks like, this is the original Alien but the remake will be very similar.

I’ve not listed to the podcast so don’t know what does LV stand for?

I’m on the standard edition but more information on the LE

It does say that.

Are the deposits refundable tho?

Got it thanks.

If the deposit is refundable that’s good news so if it looks like the games are subpar build quality or if it looks like the production is iffy, people can back out. This gives them more reason to have a positive roll out. Carrot and the stick.

This is why the pay in advance (predator or Alien) model of old was so bad. I was in for small depot on Predator but once they asked for half payment just to stay in, I was out.

Wow this is going to be a long wait if they don't have anything that is flipping yet. I mean nothing good enough to throw on video.

here's a video of the gameplay (without any commentary) but it shows how immersive the game is. Unlike most other games, it's like being in the movie scenes.

I understand this is the original with the PF display but looks like mode starts will hold the ball so you can view on the large display.

It’s odd to me.

What made them announce the game last week? What was the big rush to take deposits?

I’m not even saying make a number of pins but at least have one with film of it in action.

IIRC GGC sold a crap ton of MM remake sold a thousand LE on first day not sure if they had flippable pins at announcement.

Same as Alien.

It does show me that the game (Alien) is a great pin and a value at the current new sale price. Much like MMR undercut the price of original games. I mean that Alien can sell well without a video because people know it’s a great pin. We just don’t know the build quality yet (unknown) just as was MMR at the time.

A big sell for me is the conventional cabinet with non swapping PF and non side. I never felt as if that was needed or necessary in a pin and so far the market has agreed with both Heighway and P3 having trouble getting traction where people don’t want to pay up front costs or inconvenience or any compromise for a swapping PF.

I’m just perplexed that Alien is ranked so low at 64 on the top100 lower than Judge Dredd, below SW episode 1 for example. When clearly it’s a top theme and has a lot of good things to speak of.

JJP is not going to do a pin with flayed humans or severed spinal cords.

I just watch 'Alien' for the first time in 20 years. I am impressed with the atmosphere (like Blade Runner). My only gripe was that the cyborg, how could it be so lifelike that no one could tell (I prefer 'Data' from STTNG) and the computers are a bit primitive for setting 100 years in the future.

It would be nice to know what is included on the Sv so that we could decide which version to order.

My 2c

I played only 8-9 games on original Alien several years ago.

If someone had an original game and was used to playing with the PF screen, they would miss the screen and not like the new version as much.

Someone who is new to the game probably won't miss the screen because they never got the habit of having the screen there in the first place.

To me it's like the walker bomb on TWD premium which is missing on the pro. People say the walker bombs are a key feature or an essential aspect of TWD premium. However I have a pro and never got acclimated or used to playing the walker bombs so I don't miss it. I suspect someone going from TWD premium to pro would miss the walker bombs but my self as an owner of the pro never missed them or feel like the game is lesser because it doesn't have them.

Overall aesthetics look of the pin (IMO) the PF looks better with inserts and full art (better than a blank screen cut into the artwork) it's not like the art was illustrated around the screen like CFTBL or AcDc premium. It's just like the screen was thrown in and the art was cur out after the fact.

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I wouldn't call LZ a flop, it's kind of standard Stern and not likely to be bad. I played GnR was not into the gameplay (rules, upper PF) to me was more about the flash and looks maybe the SE would play better.

Alien is a theme I can get behind, with lots of atmosphere and the kind of rules that I like (mode based) and the price is reasonable. I don't have a line on one but I was considering a MM royal but the price is crazy at $5K more than an Alien SE and honestly I'd probably like Alien more than MM.

The lock mechanism does look cool. I’d like to see some videos of the game as well.

I think this game is going to be awesome.

I’ll wait, in the grand scheme of things it’s nothing. I waited a year for R&M. More interested in a great game not a fast delivery.

This is exactly what JPop was doing. Show an isolated photo but never a working pin.

Dear customer we don’t have a shooting game but we will be shipping shortly (not).

I’m glad they’re improving things on the remake. As we know theme is ultra important. Look at AP who has struggled to gain sales momentum. For all we know Alien might be the greatest theme PB has ever so good they’re trying to make the most of it.

This list is suspect in some ways with the top spot being Wall-e and Gravity being #3

But it has Alien #4 and Aliens #10 of all time sci-fi movies.

So that’s something to have a pinball machine with scenes from both films.

https://stacker.com/stories/3346/50-best-space-movies-all-time?page=5

In my opinion the top spots should be 2001 a space odyssey, Blade Runner and A new hope.

This is even better list with Aliens #9 and Alien #2.

Blade Runner #1 ( Ridley Scott has top two spots) James Cameron has almost a handful of movies in top 25.

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/best-sci-fi-movies/

How did I miss that all these years?

With GNR SE now at $7700 the Alien just got even more awesome!

Me too!

I don’t care about the PF screen either way.

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Heck if this is well built for the price of a Stern premium (a little more with shipping) it will be a heck of a deal.

I know this is crazy time but I bought a ST LE for $7700 (iirc) that was a good time but now Stern LE are crazy price.

I know, probably wanted to lock in the sales so we didn’t order a different pin. However with the significant delays we could have got a different pin and still got Alien when it’s ready.

this is straight out of Jpop playbook.

Looks great to me.

I agree.

Crazy that’s the video debut video of the game.

I thought Alien was supposed to be super awesome indestructible playfield.

That’s ok then. I don’t care about dimples every game has them, it’s the pooling and chipping that I worry about.

Agree.

I think the game looks great but it’s like pulling teeth to even get good pictures of the game. I’ve seen for sale ads with better pictures.

I’ll give the presentation and release a F- so far. It’s almost as if the company is trying to make the rollout and release of information and pictures as horrible as possible.

I’m supposed to pay the balance due but I’m not sure I’ve seen enough.

I wanted to see what the LE looks like and see what issues people are having too.

Me too.

I’m not very good with repairs and adjustments, part of why I passed on Stranger Things premium. I do have R&M and that’s been a constant battle not least because I’m not very confident in my skills of a pinball repairman.

Hopefully later builds will be working out of the box.

Funny I was expecting Chuck to look like Fletch for some reason.

Definitely some glitches like when player 2 drained and got a ball back and an add a ball 23:20 mark.

Hopefully just some software bugs.