Agreed, I don’t believe it. Potential market is a few hundred games. Not worth it for CGC who is busy building B/W remakes for another five years.

ps -I could see a need to up the license if .... someone planned to create a digital version of Alien for online sale. that rumor is free of charge.

funny thing. I mentioned Alien was my GOAT and ....Kaneda said Alien could never be considered a great game because it didn’t include any likeness of sigourney weaver nor is the rest of the cast shown in video and no theme song. For those reasons the game was a FAIL, presumably a horrible mess. Also since it supposedly never sold well, meant it wasn’t that good. It couldn’t be, right?

One week later ... swapping out for b/w parts, redesigning mech’s and asking a company to build a widebody pin for the first time is a wonderful idea. No changes on the weaver and cast front, and the software and code is done - but Alien will be a great pin. Whereas Andrew could hardly sell and build 125 Alien games, the market craves them by the hundreds for the same price (which was $9k delivered). :-/t=

ok call me stupid. The Dude says when something smells fishy in Denmark, it means K is full of shit. I’d call this strike 2, and if so ... it’s the end of Kaneda as we know him.

even a caveman could figure that one out.

nice post and offer to provide Charlie with access to talent.

Can we get a Truth Checker to aisle 5? K’s podcast needs some assistance, and bring 2 dumpsters.

Time to up the stakes for all challenges! That’s right, tattoos must now be on your face cheeks, baby. No hiding an embarrassing ass tat in public with clothing this time, it will stick out in a crowd. Let the name forever ... Shame him. Shame him.

My best game was getting to all out war on ball three of a five ball game.

I wish the rumor of more Alien games being made was true so more could play and own one. Too many obstacles though, this pipe dream will never leave the runway.

If CGC were redesigning the widebody cabinet, cabinet art, backbox, backbox art, mechanisms, pc, boards and wire harnesses, which it sounds like they would be doing per the current rumor, then what’s left? Only the playfield, software, video and sound/music. Why redesign everything around an existing playfield, only to redesign 99% and still end with a widebody?

If the rumor had been ... Alien was licensed for a new version of the pinball machine, I might have believed it.

I lost the will to dream this weekend. Wanting a NIB experience and realizing there will be - No Predator, No Lebowski, No AlienR, No more POTC and No BBBr2 sitings in my future! What else won’t I be able to get in 2019

Ice,

Curious who is remaking Alien per your rumor? Does their name rhyme with Pandrew Pheighway?

If it is unknown whom will build these games, there is no deal. This is some man's pipe dream and is barely worthy of rumor status in an Insiders club. Until Pinball Brothers redesigns the game, builds samples, tests until proven reliable, selects a contract manufacturer, works out a funding plan, addresses vendors and debtors whom they stiffed, receives & QC's enough components to build 100 games, builds a service department capable of providing support and learns how to communicate with customers - they aren't a real company.

Odds of PB making and selling 100 Alien games in 2019 < 1%. Odds of a new game being made with same sized monitors, Xeno head, sleep lock and lit cabinet art and being offered in 2019 for $9k delivered, just like the original, is 0%.

I’ll bet $1M against it happening.

disclaimer - I’m not rich enough to bet anybody $1M

Predator pinball is my number one theme but the game was a mess. Kevin’s version was illegitimate and he is a CONman. Some of the modes sounded fun. Art was ok, sculpts were good, but layout and shots sucked ass. Pinball Brothers should spend their efforts designing a new Predator pin. We want Predator!

Come back in two weeks. Ice says they’ve almost found a manufacturer and Hilton says 04/18/19 is the deadline for units being trucked to customers.

Then come back in two months to collect your bet.

This pipe dream grows closer to reality each day. Way past due for full court coverage by all the podcasters. By week’s end, I expect this factory will be cranking out 100 Aliens a day. All games come loaded with German engineering and visit with the Queen. Don’t miss out.

And they did it poorly with lies, lack of communication, missed deadlines, horrible customer service, no follow through on their promises and they transferred assets from previous company in dark of night. Apparently they learned nothing along the way as there was no evidence of them fixing any issues in company.

Now these toads have a brilliant new idea to redesign and remake the game. Good luck! Anybody considering doing business with Pinball Brothers is advised to go in with eyes wide open.

His TBL prediction was supposedly a lock too, and that one didn't happen either. Madea would remind us - when you make a bet, you need to honor your word and accept the consequences. The wager was an ass tattoo and to quit podcasting, right? I'd be content with K-man getting a Hilton tat on his face but to keep on broadcasting. It's time to pay the piper Can we hire Tony Mantanio to make this happen ???

I read somewhere that the redesign of Alien and replacement of parts with Bally/Williams brand was a slam dunk. All other matters like licensing were being handled by lawyers as a mere formality. It was alleged that the game was almost ready to ship. All they needed was to find a factory that would lease them space for free. What happened?

Also heard that anyone caught not believing this rumor started by Iceman and perpetuated by Kaneda as gospel would be publicly shamed. Turns out to be 100 percent bullshit from the beginning while maybe 0 percent of the real effort required to make this happen has occurred to date. The only part of the rumor cycle we did not hear were people claiming to have seen it and who could confirm it played great. At least nobody sent in preorder dollars this go round.

One man’s pipe dream is what I called it, only to receive a downvote from Ice for it. Where’s Ice and his apology to the community? Where is CrazyLevi’s booze?

edit - just remembered Vid is missing too. Starting to think Vid may have been part of an Alien encounter gone bad. If Vid is piloting an ufo, what are the chance he stopped to give Ice a lift?

wtf, where do you get that? I count 0 for 2.

We were told more TBL’s and re-engineered Aliens would be made soon, and they haven’t been. Kaneda made a podcast about it. He posted it, took it down and then put it back up. So where are we now? No physical progress on either. If anyone has seen something show it, but until that happens both rumors are mirages. Selling hostage games was the recent outcome of a trial and they were built two years ago. Promises by Barry to build games have no credibility.

Kaneda has chosen to double down on his bullshit rumors episode by rebroadcasting it today - in it he pledges to quit podcasting and to get an ass tat if these don’t happen. To me that means he remaking the challenges. I say he has until October and if neither is shown, he owes us the consequences he’s promised twice.

The current cabinet is partly awesome and part pita.

The proprietary design allows the cabinet sides to glow with light and the artwork panels can be swapped. Some can’t get past that things are different and some complain the removable sides are too narrow.

However, this design falls flat in regards to how the playfield glass is held in place. Rather than sliding the glass into a channel like all other pins, the glass is attached to a large metal frame that must be positioned atop the side rails and then latched down. The problem is the entire weight of a widebody glass plus the frame is heavy and the assembly is awkwardly large.

Positioning and locking the glass down once is fine, but if you’ve removed the glass and gone through the process a hundred times, you’ve probably cursed a hundred times. Given a choice, I’d still pick the Heighway cabinet design, just to celebrate something different. If it was offered as an upgrade option I’d buy it.
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building and selling 500 TBL's @ $12.5k - haha. DP should fix the game's design flaw's, update software and price the game at $10k.

... and then they will service TBL EA's - pure BS!

edit - why we discussing TBL in an Alien thread?

We’ve glossed over a recent development without batting an eye. This schematic is a widebody, however every rumor until now has AlienR as a standard width. A standard width sample game was allegedly built and being shopped around for production. So was that part of the rumor patently false and wrongly passed on from story to story? Or is it probably true and this might represent a new approach to designing the game?

In my book - the widebody design, lit cabinet panels, Xeno and in-playfield lcd are all features I would not want removed. Doing so, PB might as well redesign the pin 100% from the ground up. If PB want to make Alien, make it look exactly like the original (or with a few enhancements), keep software unchanged, maybe add new art. Do not allow the remake to be something fubar.

So if final games were selling well and the design remains a widebody and costed out are the in-playfield lcd and lit cabinet panels. ... wouldn’t you expect the base model to be offered for $10k and maybe a snazzier model for $12k? I can see no reason to expect it would sell for any less $10k since originals sold much higher at the very end. Heck, I could see these being sold for $12k plus international shipping, practically $13k. We’ll see what the pricing soon enough.

This situation is sad for a number of reasons, primarily because Pinball Brothers is keeping their distance from customers and vendors who were screwed over by Heighway Pinball. Secondly because it is selling for much more than the original LE model sold, yet it has a lot less stuff. There is probably more cut that hasn’t been noted, such as the xenomorph. If that is gone, then this redesign is STUFFED.

If a new version cost $13k and you could buy a HUO original Alien in the market for $13k, choosing the original design with more stuff is an obvious choice. The old one is fantastic, so unless PB could produce a new, scaled back one for close to the $9k original version delivered, they will be shooting themsselves in the foot. Offer game at a fair price and it will sell more and everybody has good will.

Did David get paid for his work? Some did not and many suppliers were shafted.

Yeah

does the chamber switch mean a physical ball lock will be added there?
status of smaller lcd on playfield?
wtf happened to Xeno? Is it there? Does it work? Is it different?