Seems to me the licensing would be a killer at this point.

Sooo.....that was creepy.

You mean Disney...

Not going to downvote you cause it's most likely true...but...boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Why? I'm going to use my R&M to fund an Alien if that actually happens. R&M will be all delivered by the time this hits the streets.

Well I was kind of joking, it would really depend on how good/bad R&M actually is. I honestly think ^^ isn't going to happen, but who knows. Would be awesome if so.

Is it shipping yet?

LMAO. It's like people have learned nothing. It is way too easy to post BS of 'hey look what we're doing!'. It doesn't matter how many social media posts people make to hype it with their veiled teasers, until machines are coming off the line, nothing is coming. Now to see how many people throw money at 'pre-orders' after the 'never again' moments. I can't see why anyone would fund this up front and without that, I don't see how they are going to make any. Chicken/Egg scenario...and has been shown already, just because they are coming off the line doesn't mean they will continue to come off the line...

I know many of us would absolutely love this to be true, but let's keep our wits about us.

LMAO. Even then they have their work cut out for them. Slam already made a damn good one..even if on the wrong platform

2122.

Why? Do you have one? No? Hmm. Until they are coming off the line....nothing changes. But congrats on your slow year win I guess?

Step 1: Social Media Hype
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit!

Anyway, I'm beginning to think that so many people have been skeptical that they are rethinking their strategy, which is good.

Sounds cursed. Probably best to just keep it and bury it with you

Alien: Awakening apparently IS happening too...for whatever it's worth..those movies have been less than great.

Yeah, I think it would be cooler if it had a traditional backglass, with score led's that kind of matched the computer tech from the movies. I do say leave the LCD in the pf though...or at least move it to a small one on the apron or something. Completely losing out on the tracker just seems foolish since it was already there and integrated well.

Wut? LMAO. Her career is as strong as ever.

Small company, no way this is only 7k....

so are these 'new' pics or pics of the old ones? Anyone can tell?

Right now the signs still say $ucker$.

Oh come now, have you seen the for sale posts around here? Most people don't even play pinball according to their 'plays'.

I thought the screen was cool in the brief time I got to play one. I didn't get too deep into it though because the ball kept getting stuck. Also another reason I couldn't justify dropping the money on a used one, didn't trust the reliability and lack of support...granted I know that the owners have been great, but still it's a crazy amount of money for something that could easily become a paperweight.

It will be cool if this doesn't blow up after 10 games or so off the line. I'm not about to jump to the front of the line regardless of how this is my dream theme. Crossing fingers it works out.

Are you sure about that? They are still selling 12k remakes....and used sales aren't exactly falling. Alien isn't nearly as old as the 15k MM's prior to the remakes, and also quite a bit less of them out there. MM demand is still high regardless of the multiple runs they've done.

You missed the point, new are selling 12k for the latest remakes, and the prices for older have not dropped. I had already acknowledged old ones were 15k before the remakes. It's a numbers game, MM is still highly sought after, and there are more of them out there than OG Aliens. which is also a highly sought theme.

Yeah, I honestly want to hold out for an LE, then the question becomes...will it last until then? It certainly looks like they are well on the way, crossing fingers.

EDIT: Did I miss it, have they said what is different on the LE?

Oh man..that would be an awesome mod...the eggs that pop open with a facehugger popping up each time you hit the bumper!

2 now. I caved. Since the deposit is refundable, let's see how this plays out. Generally I would prefer to be down the line further to get the 'xenos' worked out...but...

They said in the podcast that it was simply a matter of reliability of the playfield. I know that is debatable, but that's what they said.

I do wish that the rails and lockdown were black instead of silver, but I guess that is easy enough to change.

They said they thought around 500 - but not in stone. Gameplay will be the same, and they have not decided what will actually be different on it yet.

Yes, Alien: Awakening IS coming believe it or not...

Also, there is an Alien TV show coming to Hulu(I think).

I don't hold out any high hopes either will be good though. Covenant was horrible.

The more I thought about it, unless there is something amazing on the LV that I can't get on the SE I doubt I jump for a 2k increase at that point. I'm not interested in the blue or green powder coat trim, as I'm going to black mine out most likely. I'm assuming invisiglass will be part of that package, but what else at 2k difference?

Perhaps the lit outer cab? I did think that was really cool on the OG, but since it will be packed among others, it would never be seen in my lineup, so it's not a deal breaker either.

Perhaps a topper...and my do I have some ideas for toppers. Curious to see what happens there.

What I would like to see is on the magnet for the xeno, it actually have some sort of plastic around that inner mouth, but I don't know if that is even possible with how it is configured.

LOL...what if it is actual Ripley callouts...That might be worth the price

My story is similar to yours. My parents were at the drive in watching it. I was 4 and supposed to be alseep. I remember watching some of it, and I remember specifically the chestburster scene. For whatever reason, rather than scaring me, I became a huge fan of the movie and have been collecting various Alien and Giger memorabilia for years. I don't have any of the real big stuff or really high priced stuff like some of the people on pinside have shown in the gameroom threads though.

But the rumor is it will take place on earth...so...we'll see I guess.

Yes.

They are calling the LE the Limited Version (LV). While it isn't said in the podcast, it is a play on the theme - LV-426

EDIT: Fixed the name.

Well if they are now saying they aren't transferable, (and the fact they aren't taking down payments for LE's yet), it might be wise to call and find out for sure. There's some conflicting information going around here.

I think he was pointing out my typo.

In regards to timeframe, how long DOES it take to ship a crate overseas? 3-4 weeks? Longer? It didn't sound like these were on the line yet so...a month to build, a month to go overseas, and a few weeks shipping is the 'forecast'?

What is the sound system like on these? I didn't see that there are any real changes coming there. Decent?

It's most likely not going to be pf screen. Most likely invisiglass. They also mentioned more LED's and possibly under cab lighting

That was just in respect to the pf monitor - which they didn't say was 'open for discussion'. Invisiglass price +/- LCD (probably more $$). The rest of what you listed is likely too, along with mirror blades/ art blades too.

Now, if they do add the PF screen, that would seem pretty disturbing based on what they've said already and I'm not sure I would trust them and probably cancel my order. If you are going to have it in a higher model state it. Don't play games.

Where did you see this?

Having seen what it looks like with the slime green (which is actually a color I really like on black) it is TOO much. I like it minimally. In this case to me it is better black rails and green light/art accents.

I kind of just assumed this was a nobrainer? Is it not on the originals?

lol i literally said this exact thing needed to be a mod a few pages ago.

Well, if they aren't taking your money first, they have to gauge interest in how many to build. I don't imagine they are going to make a warehouse full of them and sit on them until they sell. Since there is no set number of the SE run, it could be 200 it could be 2000...it will most likely depend on how many deposits they get.

That was part of what sold me on it. After listening, there was very little 'hype and marketing spin' in their responses. They seemed very straightforward.

It's because it's a terribly horrible game that no one wants.

Has more to do with lack of people getting to play it, also..pinside ratings are not real world in many cases.

I prefer the one that doesn't cost me $12-14k for same gameplay. Besides those aren't even good comparisons. One would assume the lighting is going to be pretty much the same aside from the cab. If you don't want it, you don't want it. Go spend your money.

Are there any clips missing from the original? Sound or video?

Yes! Exactly what this needs.

Have you actually shopped hardware lately? Cheap is exactly the opposite of what it is today..that is if you can even get things. While I'm sure they aren't using the newest tech, even old stuff is 2x as much as it should be.

One would assume they already have that sussed out and on hand by now.

I really doubt AvP gets done. One reason being they have to decide between the movies or the comics, and the movies are almost universally thought of as trash and I would doubt anyone is going to do one based on the comics because MOVIES and BANDS are the only thing anyone makes these days. By the time they pay for the licenses involved, there is no way someone is going to pay to also then have an original themed pin based on this theme made. Not going to happen. So I don't see it happening, ever.

I also just realized...Disney owns Alien (and Predator too??) now...so I'm actually very surprised this pin is happening at this time.

Haunted House..possibly the heaviest widebody around. Man i hate moving that thing...always scared the legs are going to break off.

I'm thinking HH, Alien and Monster Bash side by side.

I had considered this too, but then I thought...what if they only get 50 or so out? I want one, even if it isn't supported. As dumb as that may sound.

I played one, and yeah, it wasn't bad. And clearly most people who played Alien say it is very good if not one of the best. Sad that things went how they did. They clearly had some talent.

How is that even possible unless they are already on a boat?

And...I'm not really sure why everyone keeps bugging Cointaker. They'll update you when they know more.

I listened to it, and in no way did they say they had games made and on their way. Yes, they said January in a very....brushed off way, but i missed anything about boxes before Christmas. If that is the case, why are we not seeing anything regarding the new games. Videos, pictures of an actual game, etc. All we've seen is teases of parts, and what appears to be a mock up of the game still image. That is kind of concerning.

It also is kind of annoying that if that IS the case, that they haven't figured out what is going in the LV, but..that's first world problems.

I'm not complaining, I just think it is unlikely given what was said, but who knows. The sooner the better. It is just odd that they have barely said a word since the announcement, and no gameplay videos, or anything at all for a game they are actively trying to sell. Even RAZA had more marketing.

That's going on the Nuked From Orbit Edition.

I feel like the people saying 'why would you want that?' have no f'ng clue what they are talking about, since yes, there ARE changes. Lots of changes.

I have a scoop on nearly every pin.

I would think that these days the hardware cost of such things (center pf, and large backbox lcd) would be lower, but production costs and other part costs are higher than they were in 2017. I imagine the removal of the center, and smaller bb screen was to offset some of that cost (and probably cheaper motherboard as less outputs needed) which was transferred to the stability improvements, the ball lock, the magnet. However, I can't imagine they saved that much money by making those screen changes.

In the interview they also said that the reason for the smaller backbox was due to assets, which was kind of odd, since the assets were already done and worked on the big screen. I wonder if they made new assets. Or maybe something was lost in the language.

Now...that is not somethig I think has ever been done. With everything being addressable LED now, this would be an interesting mechanic. Lit 'areas' rather than lit inserts.

"Hey Vasquez, shine a light on your left!" and the left portion of the GI lights up, and you need to hit targets there

etc...

Or...multi color regions on the pf GI with different point strategies.

I don't see it happening. They will cause ill will to the people who buy a SE or lots of people cancelling orders (if it is announced before delivery). They gave no indication that it was going to be on it, and frankly, if it was, they should be up front about it. Period. MAYBE after they see all the people clamoring for it, they may change their mind, but it should be known before SE's are delivered.

There is no banking. Unless you are trying to sneakily tell us you know something, either out with it, or your assumption is worth no more than anyone elses. I'm simply stating the fact that if they were to make that addition, many SE orders will cancel for it. Since they had the forethought to tell everyone they were making an LV too, it is kind of disingenuous (maybe not purposely) to draw everyone to an SE - because they gave good reason that the screen would not be there in the interview - and then suddenly put it a screen on the LV.

I agree. I like the screen. That's why I want to know lol. I mean, if it isn't there, I will most likely be happy with SE, but if it is there, and I'm already paid for a SE, I'm going to be not as happy - since they really did lean towards it was NOT going to exist at all. I'm not a fan of moving games in and out.

I can't tell if you just really have your hopes up or if you know something, because you sound like you are convinced there will be one. What they said regarding why they removed it does not in any way mean it's going to be on the LV. The reasons they give explaining why it isn't doesn't lead to it being there on a higher model. If that was the case, and knowing many would be dissappointed it wasn't there, it would have made more sense to just keep it in and raise the price, or just cut out a 'lower' model all together. They also stated that the parts would be available for sale, which also makes it sound like whatever they are putting on the LV is cosmetic only.

And yes, I think that if 'they blew their wad saying LV had a screen' adds to my point. If that is how it is going to go down, it's manipulative. Don't even bother selling an SE in that case. Just sell the high end model and sell the addons separate to keep costs down for those who don't want to pay as much.

there's no point arguing about it. As I said, I want it on there, I just doubt it will be, just as I'll be very surprised if they are here by end of January. There's too much 'hush hush sneaking around' for a game that's already been announced and had deposits taken and supposedly already shipping. None of this would be speculation if there was actual information being released rather than 'teases' and non information. I would 'assume' that once games are shipping they would announce it. Why wouldn't they?

I never was a big fan of the DE BttF. I'd like to see a completely new version.

It's been covered multiple times, but:

1. Preorders are to the distributors only and refundable $1k+shipping
2. Old pre-orders are getting voucher for aprox half value to put towards this or other

There really is no risk to ordering at this point as they are not getting the money up front.

really...that's the ONLY thing...hmm...

by that logic, there's no reason to own more than 1 game.

Same art, no games. It's going to be a long wait.

They are already for sale at Cointaker. There will be 2 models, the lower (SV) is currently for sale - and scheduled to start being delivered sometime this quarter (remains to be seen). The higher end model (LV) has not had its details announced yet. To order requires a $1400 refundable deposit to Cointaker (PB will not see this money until delivery). Many people are putting a payment down on the SV and putting their name in for the LV just in case it is worth the price difference.

Google pinball brothers alien for more details.

Well the company making the playfield is supposedly one of the best. and the videos they've shown are pretty damn good. But yes, lots of unknowns at this point.

The LV is just cosmetic supposedly. They are making 500 of the LV's, and no limit that they've stated on the SV.(at least I think that's what they said). They've given no details at this point. I don't know how long they plan on making it.

It's all good as long as it's they arrive and are a quality product.

I wouldn't call what they said a promise. The conversation was the source of quite a bit of back and forth here as to how to interpret it. Many of us knew there was no way there were games on their way in the timeframe mentioned.

There is a key difference with this one as to last time, which is the money was given up front and gone. While there are lots of things that could make this go south, if people were to not get their money back, Cointaker (as well as other distros for this) would be in hot water and damage any future business with those companies because it was explicitly stated that it was refundable and not being given to the PB up front. They had the foresight to know many people wouldn't go for it otherwise.

That isn't to say all of us are sitting here blindly expecting this to go off without a hitch. I will expect something more before I hand over the rest of the money, even if Cointaker has to take the videos themselves.

Walmart with the Kenner re-release? Interesting.

Unlike RAZA, the beauty of it is, we aren't out anything if it does fall through. I'd rather put my money on this than anything Stern is rushing out at this point.

Took a year to get an MBr, took a year and a half to get R&M. I couldn't get myself to pay the 'rarity' fee on an og Alien. We'll see how this plays out. I think it will be fine, I just don't think they are going to be hitting any fast timelines and I'm okay with that.

What's new about them? The OG had RGB didn't it?

I tire of these close up teasers. They are already for sale. Show the f'ng game. You show this stuff PRIOR to announcing it is for sale.

These aren't changing naysayers minds, and they aren't impressing the people who are already ordered or sitting on the sidelines.

I have no issue waiting, but I doubt years. If this is going to fall through it will be long before that. I really am curious what is going on over there though. Getting a lemon is possible, we've seen it many times before. Let's hope it doesn't end like that.

Not sure if it makes a difference, but the comments on their FB posts are all 'glad you are keeping us informed'. I'm not sure what information they are giving, as I've not seen much.

Also someone wrote this in response to what is different about the lights:

"Les alien de série haighway pinball avaient une simple led avec puits de lumière. Là c'est comme les premier prototype, des totem mais avec une autre technologie"

Rough google translation:
The heighway pinball series aliens had a single led with skylight. This is like the first prototype, totem but with another technology

Since I'm not that familiar, I can't say what that means.

I would be down with those OG EL rails. I am disappointed they are missing on this.

n/m didnt see the post above them.

Yeah, I think regardless of quality of the new ones, the displays etc are going to be a sticking point for some which will keep prices up on the old ones.

This is what is strange to me. The only thing I can think is, this isn't an American company and they do things differently.

I don't see why people think this is impossible (although I doubt they do it). Cut a hole in the cabinet, replace it with printed plexy and led's. (Yes probably a bit more involved than that but hardly impossible).

I think everyone holding out hope for the pf LCD on the LV are going to be sorely disappointed.

5 years give or take another 5.

Probably 6 months of more teasers. Free!

There's tons of shots of it NOT on the backglass. Due to the white overlay it is hard to tell but it sure looks like it at least has green color shining through and especially on the edges, and possibly red as well. It would make sense for it to be green/yellow/red if those are bullet levels. Mostly hard to say for sure yet...mostly.

The ruleset is the same as the old, in which it serves multiple weapon functions.

That dropship has to be out of fuel by now. Did we ever actually have anyone confirm the whole 2 games were being flown to CT thing?

All the threads have been lame lately. The only live thread is a bunch of grown rich men complaining about price increases.

Just not much to talk about right now other than missed timelines and radio silence.

Look on the positive side. We'll all probably be 5-10 years older by the time we get our Aliens!

Is it just me or are the sound effects missing? No slingshot sounds, target sounds, etc. A few voice callouts here or there, but otherwise just music. Is the OG that way? Or is this something maybe they just haven't fixed the coding on?

yeah..with each new 'tease', it brings to light that this thing isn't nearly ready, and wasn't nearly ready in December. If they aren't using the actual sound from the game --- and they haven't in any of the videos I've seen , why not? Am I imagining hearing the mechs and the ball rolling??

I don't think there are any on their way to CT, which would be fine...except, why lie about it?

Yeah, they seem to serve their purpose pretty well.

Overall, it's looking good. Just would appreciate being a little more up front about it not being at all ready.

Do you mean due to copyright they can't show them on youtube?

-1 for licensing lawyers if true.

You didn't really kickstart it. They are doing this all out of pocket. The deposit in this case was to gauge interest for how many parts to order. Way more people are serious about $1000 than $1 (or no $). You are free to remove your money from the CT holding area at any time. There is no 'drama' really. The only real issue is that their initial 'it's up for sale' statement did make many people think the kinks had already been worked out and that games were on their way. This clearly was NOT the case, and NOW apparently they are doing the 'but corona' excuse.. Basically....I was right all along. There was no game ready, and it is likely to be Q3 at the earliest before games ship. They didn't even have parts available in December beyond probably prototypes.

Note, I am fine with waiting. That's never been the issue. The clear misdirection when it seemed they were being sincere, followed up by lack of communication to clarify it all is what annoys me. What they should have said is, these won't be ready until end of 2021, but they chose to pull on peoples impatience instead.

Clearly based on their FB post, pinside aren't the only ones questioning them, and they should have expected there would be a pretty large eye on what is going on and questions based on the teases that make no sense to an outsider.

I completely agree. I have waited a year or more for each NIB I've purchased, but I will caveat that by saying, in those cases, I was well aware of the wait time. There was no question, and it was told up front (based on where you were in the line). The one issue you run into is...for me...Stern for the most part isn't putting out games I want. I never thought I'd buy a NiB pin, and here I've bought 2 in the last 3 years, with a 3rd (Alien) in the works, but none of those were Sterns. That isn't to make this a anyone vs Stern argument, I'm just stating that sure, I may be able to get one right now, but it doesn't mean I want one.

These small shops are the only ones that happen to be doing what I want right now. So you just have to go with it, lumps and all.

NOoooooo. I do not want a Prometheus/Covenant pin!!!

No, that's the least of my concern..it's a different country, with people who english is not their first language. Paddles...makes sense.