Thank God!

“Only.”

... if this Pinball it is indeed a real project by CGC, both of you will have to fight to see who’s the real ALIEN

When is the Levi ass tatoo stream? This is happening.

What's happening? Alien Williams? Care to explain?

Mike and his Company are the best in the biz.

Please PM me with your issues. Hopefully we can help make every customer happy!!

That gif sums up pinside as a whole

Accuracy or real commitment isn't really on the menu for any of that list of characters. More like dodge, deflect, pivot....

No not gonna happen !
There building Lawbowski

Who's the Pinsider?

I've pm'd him as well...

Ha...Nah, just means if they do an amazing job w this version, I'd potentially have to think about adding it ...Mines not going anywhere...won't use the dreaded word, but can say it's probably my favorite theme that I could ever imagine for a Pinball...

I changed my vote due to Mirco cleaning his inventory of Alien-playfields.

Hmm, but if GCC or someone else is going to make them here in the U.S. they will source the pfs here in the U.S.

Why do you say that? JJP playfields come from Germany.

Yes, exactly, Mirco is german. CGC would print their own playfields.

Also, the old Mirco Heighway playfields won’t be compatible with the CGC version anyways.

so why does that change your vote? Assuming that vote is yes? Sorry not following.

I changed my vote to: "Yes, I believe it will happen", because Mirco is clearing his inventory and it takes place very near to the rumour that Pinball Bros will have the pinball machines (and obviously then also playfields) manufactured by CGC.

Oh Pinside.

Awww. Certified buzzkill.

Kaneda said on his Twippy acceptance speech that George Gomez was the source of this rumor. I couldn’t tell if it was sarcasm or not..

Lol.... it was a funny joke

I heard the same but it was def sarcasm.

So no CGC alien announcement at TPF..... Is this officially dead now? I forgot what the bets even were...

I lost the will to dream this weekend. Wanting a NIB experience and realizing there will be - No Predator, No Lebowski, No AlienR, No more POTC and No BBBr2 sitings in my future! What else won’t I be able to get in 2019

AlienR..... I like that

You do know there are other pinball machines made and plenty of older ones to choose from? I would argue many that are better than those games.

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You just need a Beer and go to Oktoberfest!

I asked several people (who are much more plugged in than me) and they all said no credible info that the remake will happen.

Is Pinball Bros looking for someone to remake it? Possibly. Is Fox shopping the license around (for a completely new development)? Possibly.

But remaking the current game as-is is going to be extremely tough - just from a manufacturing standpoint, it would require a lot of re-work or new tooling (cabinets, electronics, mechs). From a business standpoint, it’s going to involve a lot of negotiations/legal work. Pinball Bros may own the IP - but there’s a lot of unpaid suppliers, unpaid developers and customers that are owed partial/full games from the first failed attempt. Lawsuits are highly likely if all parties are not satisfied.

Is all that baggage worth it to a CGC when they can easily remake a ToM/TOTAN/BBB/CC/etc?

to change to a Williams esq style setup so much would have to change:

1: CGC need a wide body cabinet - not hard for them considering they make cabinets
1: complete new playfield that would mount properly with the holes in the right place, and would it have the screen in the playfield?
2: CGC game platform, assume the code can be ported but can the CGC platform play lots of live action video with an overlay?
3: complete redesign of all the electronic boards, where CGC go for a large main board which would be huge for a widebody
4: backbox redesign to take computer and a large screen.

So pretty much all you would take is the play field design in what ever cad package its in and then try to overlay/import it into CGCs system adjust it so it worked with the Williams style cabinet...

or the pinball brothers supply all the parts and CGC do assembly. Feels unlikely to me.

Frankly if the pinball brothers try to do anything with the assets of heighway limited I'll personally refer them to companies house, the fraud squad and the administrator of the outstanding liabilities, lots of folks are owed money and the pinball brothers need to put those people right.

Neil.

Alien uses a sliding PF design now. Sure the mech is different, but no reason to believe it would take a 'whole new PF'
Alien code already runs on a generic PC - no need to port it. Biggest change would be if they were to re-design the I/O boards
The interface boards could be reworked - but that's a choice. You can buy them directly from China right now if you needed to... Most would say they should fix some of the shortcomings of the electrical design of them.. but that's a revision, not a whole new design

Other topics could be more impactful like... do you continue to use the inductive switches? Because if you didn't, that would be very disruptive to the playfield and require a lot of changes.

So I’m MUCH more confident than Kaneda re Alien and PB because I told him

He and I have a long history with Alien, from day one, and I asked him to keep it quiet and

Then he went off like a monkey F ing a football

He saw a post from Great Britain and said oh look it’s already out there so I’m running with it. Yes he relied on what I told him to keep quiet so I’ll out myself

But hey, whatever, we are all gonna find out soon enough

PB has the license, I believe they are making the first batch overseas AND

Negotiating here in the US to manufacture games here. You all know who the potential parties are

Bottom line, it’s boutique pinball, and there is many a slip between the cup and the lip.

It’s in motion, will it get from A to B?

Find out soon enough.

When it comes out, Williams style, I’ll be pumping up one of the best overall games I’ve ever played

Btw, even in its current state, which I have had zero issues with, PB pulled off an amazing feat with the help of the US team to get it to where it was at the final production.

To reengineer it to Williams parts, mechs etc from where it is now? I don’t believe they had much issue there

Ice, if you're right, this is going to be a ridiculously expensive year for me. Too many good games out and coming out.

So, what you're saying is:

If he is wrong then he's an idiot because he didn't listen and wait.

If he's right you're the real awesome guy because you knew first.

Does this sum it up correctly?

I said it before, say it again. Pinsider insider goes to ICE if this is right.

That being said, I do want to kill a new rumor I heard on Kaneda's broadcast right now.

Pinball life recently stocked alien parts out of nowhere. There was good reason to think this could be b/c of this apparent williams rebuild that PB is doing. I can confirm that IS NOT the case. After buying a ton of it (some really cool stuff like LE art and translite, the big PCB boards underneath, etc) I noticed that after I provided the link for others, folks reported it was sold out. I then asked pinball life directly about the source of the stock and this was the response:

"They are new old stock from the original manufacturer. Nothing new will be made as far as we know".

They went on to say that they've been trying to source these parts for some time and I suspect they're talking with the owners of freeplay who currently sell the alien parts, which is owned by PB.

Long story short, who knows if this is going to happen but the parts thing doesn't add up. I also highly doubt a williams Alien is released based on the hoops that PB would need to go through (development, previous paybacks if any, etc) - however having two distinct versions of the game of the decade for me thus far, would be fantastic. Doubt it though.

I’m saying he can blame his prediction woes all on me if it doesn’t happen. He’s right or wrong based on what I told him. Period

Who do you think he’s F ing talking about “outing”? I’m telling you now. I’ve got the text chain too. We are on the same page. He was the dummy that backed off

Primarily, because what’s the big deal? It’s not a meeting at the Trump tower with the Russians

Is it that hard to believe that a game so good, basically finished, will have huge demand when remade?

I don’t care about any of this just want my bourbon.

How’s that gonna work out anyway? I’ll just buy a bottle of the good stuff and you reimburse me?

Or are we drop shipping this baby?

All you guys are right to be skeptical

I’m not based on what I know

It will be announced soon enough and it is re engineered and made all Williams

Have you seen PB disappear? Just the opposite like Delt said

They are about to start picking up the shit ton of $$$ just laying on the ground with making Alien

No brainer

No I’ll take my Tequila 100% agave smooth thank you!

I see. Please explain.

I'm just teasing you.

But yes, it's pretty hard to believe this thing is real, at least not with a lot of work/ alterations, for usability, manufacturing and legal reasons.

Porting the code might be harder then redoing everything from scratch (with the given assets) to make it work on CGCs System.

Sounds great! ...is there somewhere I can preorder??

Ice,

Curious who is remaking Alien per your rumor? Does their name rhyme with Pandrew Pheighway?

Minus the crap ton of money they owe a lot of people.

Call bullshit on this whole rumor. But damn it’s a nice fantasy.

Or Pinball Life got grief from Pinball Brothers for jumping the gun on listing Alien parts prematurely after Kaneda revealed it. Rather than just take the parts down off their site, which would vindicate the rumours, they just change it to sold out and send you the story you’ve repeated here.

Personally I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the rumours were true. No way Pinball Brothers are just going to shelve all their assets after what they’ve invested. Especially with a license like Alien.

Gotta love conspiracy theories. Pick your side and back it up with hyperbole as if you know what you’re talking about.