nah it's fine

My biggest want is add a super skill shot. The existing one is a joke. Throw one in like Metallica's and I'd be thrilled.

Making Do or Die MB obtainable would be nice. At least add an adjustment to bring the drone requirement in line with the rest of the requirements.

Add these and it's a perfect game. Leave it alone and it's still a great game.

Like the previous poster said, a super skill shot like MET would be a great addition.

Yes, both
- added/better skill shot
- make it easier to get DoD mb. I feel this game only has two goals, DoD and Jericho, and it could have three (realistic) goals. The super jp on Monger is perfect, but the others are just too crazy difficult. All it takes is a very simple tweak to the rules, so that the main objectives have individual difficulty settings. C'mon Stern, this is really easy stuff. Would be great to have games where you get 3 or 4 flashing inserts and that oh-so-close feeling to getting all 5. Most games end with 0 or 1.

has no attract sounds

Do or Die Multiball needs to be actually attainable. If this tweak could be made (and maybe something with the skill shot) it would be the perfect game.

I find it to be attainable and love the challenge! I wouldn't want them to change a thing. I actually kind of miss when the DOD Jackpot started at 50 million (it's now 35 Million).

Super skill shot would be nice. Attract sounds too.

You've actually done it? I have never heard of someone legitimately doing it. If so, congrats!

You are one of the few. I've never even sniffed it. I wish I could just adjust the settings to make it easier.

Just to be clear, we are not talking about the DOD jackpot/hurry-up. We are talking about DOD Multiball. Two completely different animals. DOD jackpot/hurry-up is definitely obtainable but is very difficult, as it should be. DOD Multiball? Unobtainable to mortals.

Oh wait, I'm an idiot, I missed the "multiball" in your post. Put me down as not getting that far, sorry for my confusion. I do love the Do or Die one ball jackpot, however, to me it makes the game. I've owned IM since it was originally released, sold it for a short few months, then added a NIB (original edition) back into my collection.. It's one of my favorite pins of all time.

I do believe pinballcorpse in Florida has actually gotten the DOD multiball if I remember correctly.

It's pretty obvious -> the poster did NOT get DOD multiball. I'm sure he's mixing up DOD Multiball with the DOD Hurry Up.

Edit: post crossed with poster's realization of the difference.

Yep. My bad!

Stern would do itself a huge favor if it made code improvements for their VE releases to reinvigorate interest in the game. As mentioned, DoD Multiball and skill shot are obvious issues, and I didn't see anything in the recent IM code release that is useful for existing customers.

The simplest thing to do would be to make each stand up target jackpot in War Machine MB count toward your collection of total drones for a flashing Drones insert (a la DOD MB).

Making Bogeythe 5th insert would have really been the best solution, but I don't expect that to change.

I'm not sure if DoD MB should be more attainable....should Valinor be more attainable? Should TSPP Super Duper Whatever Wiz mode be more attainable? I've never been to those wiz modes either.

I wonder if Lyman can get it. If he can't get it, then yeah they should make it more attainable lol

I would like the fast scoring and 2x counter to pause during the Jericho starting cinematics.

Haha! You were so matter of fact by getting there I was thinking how glad I was you weren't in a league anywhere near me!!! Ha!

That would be great as well.

Did he?

It's possible as he is a great player and has owned IM for a long time. But he's the one who posted that thread about the "near impossibility of achieving DoD Multiball."

DoD MB is much more difficult to obtain than Valinor. I say that as someone who has made it to Valinor, and has never got closer than half way to DoD MB. And I still own IM.

Here is a post from Jeff in that thread that he started about DoD MB:

I wonder what it would take for Stern to make DoD MB more attainable for us. It sure would get them a bunch of good will.

Incorporate Sabbath's Iron man in there somewherem maybe attract mode or as a background music option.

I like this version.

Yes the code SHOULD be updated with a few minor-ish tweaks as suggested.

Will it be? OF COURSE NOT. It is nice to dream though. Those attract sounds must be murder to program

The code is fine. It's not incomplete. And being too hard doesn't mean it needs to be investigated. There area plenty of other goals that are achievable. Also stern isn't having problems selling the reruns so this confirms the game is fine.

It needs a real skill shot.

Also needs another way to earn an extra ball, maybe X amount of ramps.

And yes, make do or die multiball a realistic thing.

I found disabling the outer loop pop up post at least made it a skill shot.

Ok, I've been saying don't change a thing because the game is perfection. And I'm not even close to finishing Jericho. However, yes, Do Or Die Multiball should be attainable by the best players. Iron Man is a rush. A brutal pinball assault of your senses. My game isn't going to last 3 minutes anyway, so let me dream that it is possible. A quick tweak and I'd be happy, even though I'll probably never get there.

It also negates one of the better scoring features of the game.

Also made the game a lot faster!

edit----I did it on metallica too, love the speed!

I finished Jericho after 1year. Could not believe it when I Made the final shot.

I always wonder about the people who don't like IM because it has "too shallow" rules? Do they complete Jericho all the time and need to dig deeper? Do they like the comfort of playing longer on LOTR or TSPP for a longer play time, but still go nowhere?

Yes.

Well I was "one of them" for years. Dig back and you will see me saying stuff like "it's a one ball game". It just seemed dumb to have so much rely on one ball in a game. In other words, I didn't get it. And then I bought one. I was converted very quickly once I got some real time on the game in my house.

I disabled the pop up post on mine too. I love the flow it created. But my scores do suck most of the time. What better scoring features does it negate?

The one issue with that is that we don't know. IM came out during a "cheaper" phase for Stern. So we really don't know the internal state of the code. Sometimes things that should be trivial can be not just difficult, but then to get them into production they need to be tested in every way they could execute. Sometimes it's tougher than it looks.

TM, are you referring to reaching Jericho or completing Jericho?

Much like Crank It Up on Met. Starting it is one thing. Completing it is much harder.

The easy skill shot every time? More shield awards and pop bumper awards? Edit - Super Pops

I disabled my pop up post 3-4 months ago and it played liked a whole new game for me.

How often would you say you completed Jericho?

I think the reference is to super pops.

dozens. but to clarify, I've never complained about the rules either. They are awesome. IM is awesome. I just dont have unlimited room so i cant have an example of every type of game in he house. IM is only one game. Regardless of how good that game is, it is always the same game. There are not multiple ways to approach it. You walk up to it, arm wrestle for a few minutes then either get owned or you nail that sucker. Cool, but always the same.

I agree with the sentiment mostly, but it also falls under the "pinball is hard category".

It is obvious that IM is one of Stern's gems, I think it deserves that last little bit of polish. Stern just says shut up and give us some more cash

oh the shame of editing failz...

Impressive. I own a NIB IMVE but have not opened the box due to lack of space. I have the high score at my local arcade in Nashville and that happened when I completed Jericho (once and only once). The score remains at 130K and change. That was very unexpected. Most of the high scores on the games (over 90 pins total but I am referring to the newer Stern titles with tough wizard modes (10)) are the owners who is a better player than me. I am sure many folks have completed Jericho but to complete it dozens of times is amazing to this player.

I say that to qualify what most already know about the difficult gameplay.

Have you made it to DoD MB? If not, how close?

Forgot, I would like the skill shot. I think the unicorn of pinball will likely remain as is regardless, but it would be nice if it was more easily achieved.

Well, it seems like the general consensus is:

We only need two things (1) an easier path to DoD MB, and (2) a real skill shot.

These requests are not many. How can we let Stern know we want these? Would Stern care?