I have my outlines at Factory, achievements at hard and top post disabled. Im on 1.6. I think a 200 million score is out of reach. ..but if I can complete Jericho with 2x maybe. But ice yet to complete Jericho. Pretty hard to do with outlanes opened to 3rd hole (from bottom).

IM is now my favorite game in my colection.

I also prefer brass to red powdercoat.

Is Tron close? It strikes me that a lot of Tron lovers talk about it the way IM lovers talk about IM. Fast gameplay, good theme integration. "One more play" factor.

You have encapsulated my aversion to installing this mod!

Sounds fine. I've done it.

I'd bet money that War Machine becomes a 3 or 4 ball MB when you hit the kicker (once or twice) within the 10 seconds or so that the War Machine insert stays lit at the start of the 2 ball MB. This is regardless of whether the shield is lit. But I'm on the latest code.

Mine has the Cointaker backbox kit. It's modest and tasteful the way it changes the colors of the sky and clouds. Quite beautiful and not in your face (at least in a slow fade setting). The top strip of lights was out on mine when I bought the game and it still looks cool.

I can confirm this. Kinda sucks when you nail it just as you need a ball to keep MB going and it gives you 200k or bonus x instead! Or the random lite EB or Special.

I don't have Special set to EB because I feel that IM is really works best as a 3 ball max game...but occasionally when I get a couple inserts flashing I wonder if more balls would give me a shot at e ultimate unicorn: Do or Die Multiball.

Has anyone done this with glass off?

Don't know. When I bought it from NJ Gecko it wasn't working and he mentioned it wasn't working when he got it. Maybe something came loose on the cross country trek from Cali! This really is a nice game. If I'm the fourth owner it seems like no one else ever played it!

I read that...so it does exist tho?

IM....the one to rule them all?

Wow. So it's true. Time to go downstairs!

I'm in the minority on this (as usual) but I prefer brass on IM. Powdercoat looks nice...and will be distinctive in a one pin line up....but so many machines are powdered these days and powder on IM just sinks into the background. The brass is badass baby.

Your enthusiasm does this hobby proud. Totally unnecessary to put that on the back....so I say go for it!

Is this the same as Hooked's? If not, anyone seen both and have an opinion which is better.

Waaaahhhhhh!!! But there's nothing to do on IM! It's so shallow! I can't even really tell the difference between a populated and unpopulated playfield! That playfield should only cost you a couple hundred less than the whole game! IM is so overpriced! Waaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!

Ahhh, got that out if my system! Time to go play some IM!

Word amigo. I've enjoyed AVLE as much as IM. Different rules and styles of play, but there is pretty intense "one more game" action on Avengers once you know what you're doing and can hit those shots. Activating IMs scoring mode on Avengers - his custom music is bad ass! - is pretty sweet.

Something to remember, people hated IM in 2010. Thought it was a joke. Thought it should cost $2,000.

Well, stupid is pretty harsh (I'm not disagreeing!)...but it definitely proves that people often jump to conclusions or rush to judgement or follow the crowd - and are wrong! - but through experience and open mindedness can find the proper path. I think of some (not all) Avengers haters as "flat earthers"!

Where do you get the brass coin door/shooter rod accents?

The double scoring clock runs down while waiting through the Jericho intro. New code must fix this!

It's a fantastic side kick to TAV!

Anyone?

You need to change the # of pins you own to 2....even if they are the same game!

Good luck with that!

Rob clearly can play this game, but inlanes closed just isn't the way. 100M score with factory outlanes and new code should really be the bar on this game.

I feel ya. I moved mine in on ACDC, but I think IM is just a little too easy with them in. I also had them in with LOTR. No way I make Valinor with them open!

ACDC is borderline fair with them all the way closed. If anything, still too hard, I agree!

In a couple weeks, you'll have 2 IMs. I'd like to think you'll become the resident expert!

There have been a few delays retrograding the code.

The real take away is how good Stern games really are. Of the Sterns I've played the most: LOTR,SM, ACDC, yes, I think IM is in their class. I've played and enjoyed the other games you list, and personally think IM is better.

RobT called it right on this: IM is for Adrenalin junkies!!!

"A" players don't play on old rules with closed outlanes.

I thought you were married to that 50M do or die shot?

Guns and Roses. A nice floaty wide body to compliment IM!

And you got the good one too. Not a refake.

Way to go John! I still haven't beaten Jericho either. It's tough!

Better than ACDC? I have one of your kits, need to decide.

Nailed it. When people call this game shallow, as a criticism, I just feel they don't get it at all.

Open the outlanes man and update the code!

I've had mirror blades, speaker lights, the head phone kit and under cab flashers kit ready to put on mine for over a year...but I when I go down to do the work I end up pushing "play" and I end up playing my work time. "Just one more"!

I'm playing the latest code before the VE code. Any solid reason to update? Did I read that the light show options might be an improvement but that animations (dots) have actually been downgraded?

Btw, I play with monger at hard (hard settings all around), orbit disabled, lanes at factory. Special set to EB and one score based extra ball that starts in the 20Ms somewhere.

I totally understand purists that don't want extra balls, but I'm pleased with my set up and think its fair for IM. We need a reward in this game for the battle! My top score is around 145M, which features the only time I ever beat Jericho.

Not trying to start anything here, but I think outlanes closed to Max is much more player friendly than one score based EB. I'll bet the ball times with the outlanes closed are more than 2x with them open. Anyone with closed lanes want to post their ball times? I'll post mine later today.

I just find the game really easy and, gulp, a little boring with the outlanes closed. The person I bought the game from had it set up like you say. Without even paying that much attention I scored 90M on my first game, standing there talking to the guy selling it. I basically talked myself out of buying the game. Because it's less exhilarating with the longer ball times. I'm glad I changed my mind and bought it!

Two possible EBs (with special being very random and unlikely) is still a lot harder than closed outlanes. Closed outlanes....you might as well set the game on 10 ball!

Unfortunately you can't check ball times in the edits. Although I have played over 1,775 games I think I've cashed in 91 EBs. About 5%.

Just cleaned and waxed mine up. So fast and brutal.

I also did a factory reset so I could play the game as designed. I'd set iron monger to hard and had disabled the top post. It is a dramatically different game on factory settings then how I'd been playing it. Definitely harder with the monger coming up so much. These two changes (actually just going back to factory after years of otherwise) make it like a new game!

So, I agree with RobT on this...the game being harder on factory...but I've also always had my outlanes factory, which also keeps the game borderline unfair. but totally fun

Can you tutor Grinder and me? I don't even know where to begin.

Anyone wanna buy a killer, brassed out, modded original in NY/NJ? I'm considering leaving the club. This game was once owned by pinball "immortal" Rob T. and it was purchased from NJ Gecko a couple years ago for stupid $.

Appreciate that! One of my proudest moments was tag teaming with Gerry to make sure Grinder didn't buy that POS Classic! One of my lamest was insisting that IM could be had in the fours (to this day I feel my logic and data sets were sound!) and then ultimately buying in the high 5's. And never regretting it!

I thinned the herd (already small at 5 pins) down to 3 and I'm just thinking I need something new...and IM is the best and most valuable, so if I can find the right buyer or trade I think I'll let it go. For now.

Then?

Think how awesome I'd be if you actually took that two-fear deal I offered ya! Someone just sold my old acdc for $7k! This hobby is freaking nuts!

Congrats! Although I wish you'd made an offer on mine instead!

Congrats Brian! Welcome (back) to the club!

Just posted 189M tonight. Factory. My all time best on factory settings.

That's pretty bad ass Grinder!

I tried for awhile here to sell mine at $5k, and got no interest. So glad it didn't. I'm back to playing it and loving it, and mines a beautiful example too. Selling it would have been a regrettable mistake.

Actually you mean Whiplash. No Monger/Whiplash stack in the game.

Monger can be stacked with War Machine. And War Machine with Whiplash.

Tonight I may have had my best series of games ever. Played about 10 games and got a 75M a 79M and a 106M. 2 of these made my high score list (my highest are 189M and 144M). Hit Do or Die shot 3 times tonight. Once for 34,800,000. Couldn't finish Jericho though.

The 106M game tonight was vintage. 105M on first ball. 1M on the next two. Fucking Ironman!

My game is all Factory settings nowadays (and outlanes) Which is definitely harder than setting Monger to "Hard" in the settings. RobT pointed that out to me, and I didn't get it at first, but it's true.

Im pretty sure the dude that got DOD MB had Monger set to hard, and the upper post disabled. He's obviously a rad player (way better than me) and his achievement stands on its own merit - freaking awesome and almost unbelievable - but I'd like to know if he did it on factory settings or not (and where his outlanes were positioned).

IM is truly a special game. An all time classic.

Ah, ok. I see what you mean now. I try and do same when it looks like Monger can't be avoided.

Do not like the fact that when you're in Monger MB, that's practically all you can do. I guess if Bogey or one of the IM target modes is already running you can do that and run up your shields, but you can't advance anything else of consequence. It's basically just Monger, and that can get boring. Monger MB can be exciting of course, with the magnet and Super shot, but I'm usually glad when it's over. Whiplash and WM, on the other hand, I never get enough of.

I had mine set that way for years, and I like the game that way...but the game is easier that way, for the very reason that the Monger isn't always popping up - and screwing with you ! - like it does on factory settings. I put it back to factory awhile back to see if I could kick the games ass that way. I think I did - 189M - and I'm keeping the settings factory for now...to see if I can break 200M and also get the unicorn DOD MB the more difficult way.

I'll give it some more time, but then I'll set Monger back to hard, close the outlanes a little, and see if I can abuse the game a bit.

Thanks for posting that pdf. Luckily, I’ve never needed my manual (still in goodie bag, lol) but a pdf copy is nice to have.

IM sound modders!

Question: have any of you had volume issues with custom sound packages? And with pinball browser modified code, does it ever mess with any Service Menu functions?

I finally got around to installing a pinball browser sound package, made by a fellow Pinsider. Install went fine, but the two things I want to hear the loudest- Shoot to Thrill during Whiplash MB and Black Sabbath at end game - are lower than all other sounds. I’ve messed with every sound setting I can find and cannot get those two customizations any louder. Author says I’m the only one that has had this issue.

I also think the custom code makes some of the Shaker motor setting not work, and makes some of the coil diagnostics not work, but I could be wrong about that.

Any advice or experience here? Thanks!

Sales are slow for over priced games. What is yours priced at? I wanted $5k for my modded IM for the longest time, but that ship has sailed man. My kids want me to keep it now, so it’s not on the market currently, but I think I’d need to price it at $4,500 just to get a sniff, and that might not get it sold these days.