Quoted from MikeTangoIndia:Is the stream supposed to be starting now?
Link anyone?
1 min Twitch
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Iron Maiden: Legacy of the Beast (LE)
Stern, 2018-
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Iron Maiden: Legacy of the Beast (Pro)
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Quoted from frankmac:1 min Twitch
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Quoted from MikeTangoIndia:Is the stream supposed to be starting now?
Link anyone?
Delayed.
https://www.twitch.tv/dead_flip
EDIT: Live now. Time to first machine malfunction: 3 minutes.
Ok.... so what I can see extra from pro to LE and prem. playfield is..
Metal apron
color changing GI
Newton ball
lift ramp with underworld
lifting sarcophagus
ramp diverter
Two Eddie figures.
color changing beacon
Anything else Im missing here ?
Quoted from hoby1:Ok.... so what I can see extra from pro to LE and prem. playfield is..
Metal apron
color changing GI
Newton ball
lift ramp with underworld
lifting sarcophagus
ramp diverter
Two Eddie figures.
color changing beacon
Anything else Im missing here ?
Starting to wonder if Pro is the way to go??? The GI light show is a let down, I think the red looks odd? Who cares about the figures and the Beacon.
Quoted from Hi-Fi:Is there a subway? Does the scoop under the ramp just hold the ball and spit it out?
From what they were saying on the stream there is a subway.
Quoted from Hi-Fi:Is there a subway? Does the scoop under the ramp just hold the ball and spit it out?
Kinda a let down.... looks like it just spits it back out
Also the newton ball adds almost nothing too the game.
Killer stream... I just joined twitch specifically for this. Then I got permanently banned for making a silly joke. But then it got reversed and I was gifted a subscription and a bunch of icons? A+ would do again. Oh, and beyond excited for my LE now!!!
Quoted from GorillaBiscuits:Killer stream... I just joined twitch specifically for this. Then I got permanently banned for making a silly joke. But then it got reversed and I was gifted a subscription and a bunch of icons? A+ would do again. Oh, and beyond excited for my LE now!!!
I saw that ban what the heck did you post to get such a reaction?
Quoted from Hi-Fi:Is there a subway? Does the scoop under the ramp just hold the ball and spit it out?
It appears that the subway goes from the mummy captive ball and ejects out the scoop under the ramp.
Quoted from Concretehardt:I saw that ban what the heck did you post to get such a reaction?
Supposed to be a subway
So the stream didn't show much of any game play and/or the LE cab and backglass?
Quoted from iceman44:So the stream didn't show much of any game play and/or the LE cab and backglass?
They weren’t allowed to show cab or backglass.
Quoted from Concretehardt:I saw that ban what the heck did you post to get such a reaction?
Something along the lines of "I made $500 working from home check out this link and HOLY SHIT THIS GAMES LOOKS SO GOOD" and I guess they didn't read the second half haha.
Quoted from iceman44:So the stream didn't show much of any game play and/or the LE cab and backglass?
Plenty of game play but until the band does the official release Stern can’t show the LE art.
Quoted from GorillaBiscuits:Something along the lines of "I made $500 working from home check out this link and HOLY SHIT THIS GAMES LOOKS SO GOOD" and I guess they didn't read the second half haha.
I laughed. Especially when you got tossed. Haha.
Quoted from Concretehardt:Plenty of game play but until the band does the official release Stern can’t show the LE art.
It would have made sense to provide clarity formally in the Stern of the Union since LE buyers are receiving final payment notices and all.
But hey, who am I kidding?
Quoted from Concretehardt:Plenty of game play but until the band does the official release Stern can’t show the LE art.
And the band seems to be in no particular hurry to: a) acknowledged they even have a pinball machine coming, and b) post any photos of said machine on their webpage.
Quoted from Vino:LE buyers are receiving final payment notices and all.
But hey, who am I kidding?
You mean since they're shipping lol?
Why do I feel like I just took part in a huge experiment? And one that worked at that?
I blame Bruce. If Paul was around this shit wouldn't be flyin. 
I don't have any skin in the game, but I thought the stream and the pin look great. I love the pro, but the additions on the LE look alright to me.
Just pondering if the leaked images are not the real images? Wouldn't that be funny? lol Someone unboxes the 1st LE and it is totally different.
Ken
Quoted from jints56:So LEs are shipping and Stern can’t show the art? Something’s off.
That’s why they were leaked.
Quoted from pinballrebel:Just pondering if the leaked images are not the real images? Wouldn't that be funny? lol Someone unboxes the 1st LE and it is totally different.
Ken
No way, why would Stern do that.
Quoted from Gryszzz:If Paul was around this shit wouldn't be flyin.
Bruce flyin Paul to the Lawrence, KS bake sale concert, litrelly,...cause he's a pilot. And he has a tailgunner.
Gameplay didn’t seem like an upgrade over the pro. Only 1 physical ball lock and the rest are virtual?
Quoted from Guinnesstime:Gameplay didn’t seem like an upgrade over the pro. Only 1 physical ball lock and the rest are virtual?
Gotta agree with that sentiment despite my getting an LE for other reasons.
Only watched about 45 min but pro seems like great value here
Quoted from Guinnesstime:Gameplay didn’t seem like an upgrade over the pro. Only 1 physical ball lock and the rest are virtual?
I'll have to play one but I'm not sure that I'd prefer the easier shot under the lift ramp and then having it fire out towards your flippers vs. shooting the center ramp and getting the ball diverted to your upper flippers on the Pro to start your modes. Also having the captive orb shot be easier to hit on the LE is not a benefit, especially if it is hittable via the upper right flipper like was mentioned. You want that shot to be tight because you don't want to hit it by accident when you're building up your power jackpot. And honestly the sarcophagus being used in 3 positions just means that the potential of having a ball get stuck due to a switch issue in the lock or trough and having to wait for a ball search is much greater than the Pro. I know it got stuck once in the stream although it was a preproduction game.
Quoted from Gryszzz:Also...only douchebags quote themselves.
Quoting that.
That is true!
Quoted from Concretehardt:That is true!
Quoted from MikeS:I'll have to play one but I'm not sure that I'd prefer the easier shot under the lift ramp and then having it fire out towards your flippers vs. shooting the center ramp and getting the ball diverted to your upper flippers on the Pro to start your modes. Also having the captive orb shot be easier to hit on the LE is not a benefit, especially if it is hittable via the upper right flipper like was mentioned. You want that shot to be tight because you don't want to hit it by accident when you're building up your power jackpot. And honestly the sarcophagus being used in 3 positions just means that the potential of having a ball get stuck due to a switch issue in the lock or trough and having to wait for a ball search is much greater than the Pro. I know it got stuck once in the stream although it was a preproduction game.
Really good points--when I saw Keith reefing on the ball lock after the ball got stuck and saw the amount of movement I was thinking...that is gonna cause trouble sooner or later. Not worth the exorbitant amount of extra cash unless you are a true Maiden fan, I think.
Regina, SK
Quoted from Guinnesstime:Gameplay didn’t seem like an upgrade over the pro. Only 1 physical ball lock and the rest are virtual?
But that's how most LE/Premium games are. It's more about bling and maybe doing the same things in a neater way. If they make the versions too different, then that further increases their programming effort and makes rules/scoring more divergent.
Rob
Quoted from hoby1:Also the newton ball adds almost nothing too the game.
Except that it can be hit from more angles than a regular stand up target. That certainly makes it a shot far more prone to lucky hits. Is that good or bad?
Rob
Quoted from Rob_G:Except that it can be hit from more angles than a regular stand up target. That certainly makes it a shot far more prone to lucky hits. Is that good or bad?
Rob
That’s bad according to people who have the game and know the rules already. On the PRO instead of that 360* captive ball you have a somewhat hidden standup target. When you’re building up your jackpot you don’t want to hit that target by accident and cash in a jackpot unintentionally. On the premium/LE if your building a jackpot that ball will be able to be hit from all angles and cashing in a jackpot will happen more often than you want from some random shots. However, I think that captive ball is a super cool new switch.
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:Is there a way to watch a replay of the stream from last night?
Yes here is the link on YouTube
I really liked the sarcophagus addition. Locking a ball in there making the shot a regular captive ball was cool. Then being able to knock it out with the risk/reward addition was also pretty slick. May not be a worthwhile upgrade for some people, but it is for me.
Plus, it has a scoop. I love scoops. haha
It's just a hit detecting newton ball. You can hit it from the upper right flipper as well as the bottom flippers.
The potential for accidental hits on the Newton ball will make it harder to build up jackpots, which will be good. You'll have to maintain some sort of control for bigger points.
Anybody know of an LE for sale for hot a bad proce... please PM me...I changed my mind...lol....thanks
Quoted from RichieWrench:Anybody know of an LE for sale for hot a bad proce... please PM me...I changed my mind...lol....thanks
You should be able to find a ton now after last night. All I keep hearing now is the pro is better and the LE/premium doesn't offer enough to justify the cost 
There is a difference from people saying "The LE extras aren't worth the price difference" and "the PRO is better".
Quoted from BoJo:You should be able to find a ton now after last night. All I keep hearing now is the pro is better
I don't think anyone would choose a pro over an LE, for any other reason than the cost.
Would love an LE but no way paying for the extras as the pro will be good enough for me.
I think this will end up being Stern's best pro they have done.
Quoted from Shapeshifter:I don't think anyone would choose a pro over an LE, for any other reason than the cost.
Would love an LE but no way paying for the extras as the pro will be good enough for me.
I think this will end up being Stern's best pro they have done.
This game is so excellent for people who don't want to pay the extra money for a Prem/LE. So much game play in the Pro.
I would say there are very few who were in on the LE that would change their mind. If you bought an LE, you want the exclusive package and have the money for an LE. Those arguing that the PRO is better likely either have a pro or are ordering a pro or cannot afford either a pro, prem or LE. If I wasn't buying one of the models, I'd probably say the same. It's all about perspective.
Quoted from BoJo:You should be able to find a ton now after last night. All I keep hearing now is the pro is better and the LE/premium doesn't offer enough to justify the cost
Still looking...have not had time to go thru the list again...maybe I will get lucky
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