Wanted to break this one out of the main forum.

What I did:
To summarize what I have done on this mod is to take the dead-end Super Jackpot shot and change it into a 180 degree ramp that will feed back to the upper flipper

Why I did it:
This is probably my favorite game and it has crazy awesome flow once you get it going. That is except for one shot in my option which is the current Super Jackpot shot. I am a fan of having feel good shots especially hard to hit and critical shots so this is where my drive for this mod came from.

How did you do it:
It took me all in all about 6 Months to work this design out and to find the right ramp that is out there that I could manipulate to achieve my wanted goal. Enter Led Zepplin Prem and its ramp, I got that ramp on order from stern and started to break down my game to have it ready to figure all this out. I knew I did not want to do any type of permanent modifications to my game and who does with what these cost these days. Using my engineering background I started to develop ways to achieve this. I had to make a new ball guide that would lead into my ramp as it was not just a place and go situation. Once I got that designed and working I moved on to figuring out the wire form. In taking notes from following and owning both of Logans ramps I made my bends and came up with my prototype wire form. From there I was able to go into full scale testing of the shot and make sure the mechanics and angles were all right and lead to a clean and satisfying shot. The last 2 issues needed to figure out was how to now trigger that target since the ramp now sits where it was. I know the Zepplin ramp had mounts for Optos on it but I was unsure of how I could integrate optos into the game without any logic. I did my research and landed on the Sam era opts and boards as being my best choice to allow me to bring this final part of the mod to life. In tapping into the 5v off the coin door node board I was able to power my opto board and figure out the way to wire everything up.

Are you going to offer this mod for sale:
Right now I am trying to gauge how many people would be interested in this mod. Part of this decision will be dependent on how many of these ramps I can purchase from stern. I will say that in my opinion it will not be a cheaper mod given the cost of some of the components as well as the labor aspect of building everything I would just rough estimate this one to be in the neighborhood of $400-500 but will be able to get that more refined as I get some better pricing coming in.

If you are interested in this mod please comment blow so I can keep a list.

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I am working on a video, of course i fired up a game to end my work week and my first shot hit it from the lower flipper then proceeded to loop it twice in a row didn’t think to record it oops
Then i recorded some other shots but left my shaker motor on so the video is very shaky. I will work for to get some cleaner video with the shaker off

Here is a link to a very short clip on back to back shots sorry tried to take this quick and forgot i had my shaker motor on. I will get better footage this weekend

Well i got lucky i am not an amazing pinball player by any means but i was able to capture a good combo

I get my optos tomorrow from pbl so i will update more video when completed

Will be moving list to somewhere pinside lets me exit it past 24 hour period stay tuned

I will be including a full install manual with photos but as far as complexity i would rate it at a 3 or 4 maybe… if you have ever shopped a game this will be a walk in the park. Probably the hardest part of it will be removing the right ramp which really isnt even that hard.

Required tools will be

Phillips screw driver
1/4, 5/16 and 11/32” nut drivers

Here is the overhead on the current wire form. I can see if i can tweak it a little to try and give more clearance for that mod, i just dont want to drop the ramp to far down as i dont want it to impact the ball flow and speed

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All, Thank you for the interest in this mod. I am reaching out to multiple vendors to see what quantity I can get from stern on these and if that does not work I am also exploring an option to duplicate the existing ramp. I will try and build this for as many people that want it so please hang tight while I try and figure out my best material sourcing.

yes it will work with all models

I will be using optos, my plan is to get that wired up this evening

Ok so here is the latest update.

I got the optos wired up and they are working as they should. You can see in the short video below where they are currently mounted. This now brings me to my next decision.

I have been reaching out and i feel that it is in my best interest to have this ramp made outside of sterns dependency. I am working with a local manufacturer to help me make that happen and keep costs realistic. With that said i think i will take the opportunity to move the optos location to now right infront of the ramp start. This will allow the game to continue to function as normal and not be dependent on you hitting the ramp to score the shot that usually would have just hit the target. I will look to have further updates early next week.

My plan it to order pieces and parts for 30 units. It will be expensive on my end so right now i am looking to see if i will look to ask for a $100 deposit from anyone that is serious on the mod to help offset some of my costs but i am not sure that is the direction i will go yet or not. Any feedback is welcome

Good question and I do have the wire form at a slight slope left to right, I will also be adding another anchor point to ensure there is proper pitch it to prevent any trapped balls

Rough Model done now to get quotes going on monday

I would need to get the ramps chromed after fab to match the existing and that is not a process i do not know a vendor for. I could supply bare ramps if someone wanted to get it chromed on their own

Model done! Time to get these priced out and rolling!! Last component of the mod i need to secure and will be able to give production timeline and pricing.

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Ok here is the update.

Price on this Mod will be $475 which includes shipping to continental US priority flat rate. International shipping will be addressed on a case by case. Right now i am looking about 3-4 weeks until I will start to get the custom ramps in, hoping in about 4-6 weeks to start having some runs going out. As time gets closer to start shipping I will start reaching out on my list with a PM looking for confirmation that you are still in and get all your information, your choice of rail color and payment. I have elected to limit this to 50 Pieces as that was a good price break point on the ramps to help keep things affordable.

If for whatever reason you have changed your mind and want off the list please let me know sooner than later. Until then keep flipping.

Updated List as of this post. Reminder I am only making 50 of these and price is $475 which includes Continental US shipping all other country shipping charges will be addressed at time of shipping.

1 Yesh23
2 Scott8806
3 SR230CC
4 NightTrain
5 Delt31
6 Eagle14
7 Pinwillie
8 Jecco74
9 Tigzzz
10 Schinny
11 Otto110
12 Arkin
13 ZMeny
14 JPD632
15 thewool
16 dgposter (pending Gus mod)
17 Tktlwyr
18 PinDescabarian
19 Pinb1
20 TomSS20
21 Hertig
22 dzmechanical
23 toddmann
24 ElliottSC
25 Smokingjoe73
26 ggoehmann
27 digitaldocc (pending Gus mod)
28 modfather
29 silen7ce
30 Alaskanzen
31 Xeneize
32 PinBalt
33 MarklarD
34 DerGoetz
35 Victor
36 orion31
37 Ckorth

Guess its time to get to work

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Ramp formed to fit and installed, need to make an adjustment to the opto mount on the orbit side but over all shoots fantastic. Some minor adjustments to make to the prototype wireform to fit the new ramp and the custom cliffy fits great and does its Job! Overall extremely excited about the outcome and looking forward to some play testing then ramping up production to start getting these into your hands.

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I feel like i should be able to tweak the wire-form. If anyone that has that mod installed can post me some photos from all angles that will help me see where i need to keep clearance

Just wanted to drop an update on this one. I have spent the last month or more making different prototype wireforms that i would be certain would work with the gus mod. I could not come up with one that worked constantly and did not result in trapped balls. I just met with my local fabricator today with the original ramp design and he is going to start making these up for me. He told me he will get them in batches of 5 over the coming weeks, this is the last piece i needed to be done. I look to start sending out emails to the want list people in 2-3 weeks.

Thanks for the patience

Dan

Mod is finally finished, sending out messages to the first group of people and will slowly be making my way down the list.

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Have some extra units left if anyone not on the list wants one

Main benifits of this shot is just for the flow purposes no real game change on it

Right now the only option on the wire form is a stainless steel non painted version