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Invisiglass is shipping?

By markmon

12 years ago


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    #16 12 years ago
    Quoted from DCFAN:

    RobertWinter said:I don't understand how Invisiglass would be better than PDI. Short of being the same thickness as regular glass (my only *slight* gripe with PDI), there's really not that much to improve upon.

    His pictures showed less glare and he said that it was better. Neither glass is perfect. We need some first hand accounts of real world application.

    Jack also said that he would be selling it for substantially less than PDI glass.

    How did that work out again?

    I agree with Robert though, I don't know how it could be much better than the PDI glass.

    #18 12 years ago
    Quoted from TaylorVA:

    RobT said:DCFAN said:RobertWinter said:I don't understand how Invisiglass would be better than PDI. Short of being the same thickness as regular glass (my only *slight* gripe with PDI), there's really not that much to improve upon.
    His pictures showed less glare and he said that it was better. Neither glass is perfect. We need some first hand accounts of real world application.
    Jack also said that he would be selling it for substantially less than PDI glass.
    How did that work out again?
    I agree with Robert though, I don't know how it could be much better than the PDI glass.
    By them having it in stock and not having to do a 8 month preorder.

    I was referring to the actual product smart ass!

    #20 12 years ago
    Quoted from absocountry2:

    RobT said:Jack also said that he would be selling it for substantially less than PDI glass.
    How did that work out again?
    I agree with Robert though, I don't know how it could be much better than the PDI glass.
    He was only able to bring it down about $30. He said it took months of work and is pretty expensive to make. Looking forward to real opinions.

    He didn't even get it down that much did he? Isn't it selling for $295.00 a sheet? That's only 5 bucks less than the PDI glass.

    I will be getting some of the Invisiglass before too long so I can compare them myself.

    #38 12 years ago
    Quoted from DCFAN:

    One question for you MagicJumpi, is the coating easy to scratch or is it tough like glass. For example, when a cat gets on a regular pinball glass they do not scratch the glass. Would PDI scratch from cat claws?

    I've found PDI to be plenty tough and resistance to scratching. I've had plenty of airballs hit the glass with a hard impact, and a mark has never been left (so far).

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    #86 12 years ago
    Quoted from TaylorVA:

    HighProtein said:pinballlife said:For clarification:
    Invisiglass is made in the USA. Yes, we still know how to make a few things here.
    Also, there is no green tint to the glass.
    Terry.
    Not that I'm taking your comment out of context, but just to elaborate...
    We know how to make things, that has not been forgotten.
    Our glorious government though makes it difficult to be profitable let alone compete
    with foreign (although slave labor) products because they have actual more free of
    markets in many instances that are free of inane rules and over regulations that we have.
    We also have the "minimum wage" which actually makes it worse for employers and
    employees because it makes far less of the lower paying/entry level jobs available,
    when these are absolutely the essential jobs we need for younger and unskilled people.
    Frankly nobody deserves big bucks or above average pay for standing around and not knowing jack.
    Lastly, yeah, the American people love cheap crap from Asia and on average
    they do not know what quality is nor do they really care about it over quantity.
    Regardless, it's better if we all buy a few more USA made goods than imported stuff,
    we'll see if that trend ever picks up though...
    If people are not paid a living wage(minimum wage barely qualifies) they cannot afford anything but "cheap crap from Asia".

    Taylor, you completely missed his point.

    #89 12 years ago
    Quoted from taz:

    I think his point was that the US government has made it more difficult than ever before to be a small business owner, because of over regulation and complexity. Thus, US business policy, while well intended in many circumstances, is actually chasing business abroad, and with it, jobs. The minimum wage can be a good thing, I made it for a few years and it's hard to live independently on such meager earnings. However, studies have shown that it and the truck load of rules that go with it is a disincentive for business hiring many young unskilled folks that might otherwise have employment. These are often times people still living in their parent's homes. In fact, employment burdens and risk in general have gotten so bad that many companies now primarily hire supplemental/term employees or 1099s to avoid the pitfalls of regulation and lawsuits...and this was before Obamacare. So, the burden of employment rules is about to get even worse and with it another negative hit to employment. All of the polices are probably well intended, but compounded, they make US businesses noncompetitive. Most of my jobs outside of the military have been those types of jobs. Even now, I'm a 1099 with no employment benefits, though I make a slightly higher salary as a result. I think something like this was his point, not a social equality argument.

    I missed this and didn't get back to it (this is why we need email notification!) but Taz basically made the response for me!

    Minimum wage is a whole issue unto itself. I don't think the point of a minimum wage is to make sure that someone has a "living wage" (whatever that is). Are people *entitled* to a "living wage"? Who decides what a living wage is? Shouldn't everyone be entitled to live very comfortably? Why don't we just pass a minimum salary wage of $75k a year?

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