Terry just e-mailed me to follow up on a question I had. He is shipping all his out today and he confirmed I got mine. Woohoo!
Terry just e-mailed me to follow up on a question I had. He is shipping all his out today and he confirmed I got mine. Woohoo!
The more I think about it, the more I'm glad I didn't hop on the bandwagon. Like everybody else, I initially got caught up in the "have to jump on this deal" mentality. The fact of the matter is that I still really dislike the logo.
Quoted from gweempose:The more I think about it, the more I'm glad I didn't hop on the bandwagon. Like everybody else, I initially got caught up in the "have to jump on this deal" mentality. The fact of the matter is that I still really dislike the logo.
+1,000,000
Quoted from gweempose:The more I think about it, the more I'm glad I didn't hop on the bandwagon. Like everybody else, I initially got caught up in the "have to jump on this deal" mentality. The fact of the matter is that I still really dislike the logo.
You could always take the deal of buying one piece with logo & taking the 2nd one without the logo when its available in about 4 weeks. And if you really hate the logo that much when you see it in person sell it. Im sure you can find a buyer at $150 bucks.
Quoted from smassa:You could always take the deal of buying one piece with logo & taking the 2nd one without the logo when its available in about 4 weeks. And if you really hate the logo that much when you see it in person sell it. I'm sure you can find a buyer at $150 bucks.
I was actually thinking about doing just that.
I have cats and kids. Every sheet of glass I have has scratches. Any sort of coated glass would probably scratch pretty easy too and at 3 bills a pop I just can't see that happening for me any time soon. Besides, I'm way too broke to blow dough like that. Must be a lot of rich pinsiders buying this stuff. Maybe one of em will send me a sheet so I can see what the fuss is about
You have to admit... there is some humor in the fact that everyone is irate about the logo when it was $300 for a sheet. Pitchforks were out!!!
But everyone was so happy when it was suddenly $300 for two sheets (both with the logo still). They've been falling over themselves trying to get an order in.
So... was it really about the logo? Or was it about the price? Because in the end... both your sheets are going to have the logo that you were so upset about.
Quoted from ChadH:You have to admit... there is some humor in the fact that everyone is irate about the logo when it was $300 for a sheet. Pitchforks were out!!!
But everyone was so happy when it was suddenly $300 for two sheets (both with the logo still). They've been falling over themselves trying to get an order in.
So... was it really about the logo? Or was it about the price? Because in the end... both your sheets are going to have the logo that you were so upset about.
If you order from JJP you can get one with logo n one without. To me the logo wasnt that bad so i just took them all with logo to get them without waiting.
spfxted
"If you collect pinball machines...you can afford $150."
Very true, I can afford glass even if it was 1000 a sheet. But my 40 dollar normal sheets work awesome. I don't buy into all the hype. You buy 4 sheets of this fancy glass and you could have just bought a whole machine instead. I'll take a new pin over glass all day long...
I do think the glass looks awesome though...but it's just way to much cash IMO...regardless of how great it is
Quoted from ChadH:You have to admit... there is some humor in the fact that everyone is irate about the logo when it was $300 for a sheet. Pitchforks were out!!!
But everyone was so happy when it was suddenly $300 for two sheets (both with the logo still). They've been falling over themselves trying to get an order in.
Like I stated before, it's all about the perceived bargain. People will lose site of all logic and buy something they weren't even in the market for if they think they are getting a good deal. That's why I had to take a step back and remind myself that I don't like the glass with the logo on it for any price.
Quoted from spfxted:If you collect pinball machines...you can afford $150.
Not this anyone - pinball addiction has killed my bank account (no regrets tho )
Quoted from Shapeshifter:'Next batch comes in 2 weeks. No JJP logo. Wording under lock bar. In
the meantime turn these glasses around with logoup top. If you are not
happy, we will make you happy. That's my word. Post this on Pinside
too as I don't post there. '
Like it or not I think we all can agree Pinside is quickly becoming very popular within the pinball community. I'm not sure why Jack has chosen not to post on Pinside especially in a situation like this. I hope he reconsiders in the future. Overall this is a very friendly community with a lot of passion for pinball. Either way JJP did listen to the community and will be making it right and that is something to be applauded.
FYI Gweempose and others, now they are offering for today only buy 1 get one 1/2 off both with no logo on them it is on their site at pinballsales.com. For me still a bit too pricey but just thought I would post it for others. I hope we see a developer offer a similar product in the $150 range in the near future.
I am picking up 8 more sheets on Friday. I will just need a few more to do all my pins. I didn't care about the logo from the start. This just makes it better
Seems pretty clear (har)... first person to offer PDI/Invisiglass-quality at $150 shipped per sheet will make a lot of money very quickly!
Quoted from zippydapinhead:I have cats and kids. Every sheet of glass I have has scratches. Any sort of coated glass would probably scratch pretty easy too and at 3 bills a pop I just can't see that happening for me any time soon. Besides, I'm way too broke to blow dough like that. Must be a lot of rich pinsiders buying this stuff. Maybe one of em will send me a sheet so I can see what the fuss is about
All anti-glare glass is specially coated and will scratch easier than regular glass. Look at 3M, Schott, etc at their spec sheets and how to clean that glass.
If I didn't have a cat I would buy some too.
Quoted from tatman9999:I am picking up 8 more sheets on Friday. I will just need a few more to do all my pins. I didn't care about the logo from the start.
It couldn't have worked out better for you, tatman. That's a heck of a lot of money you just saved!
Quoted from tomdotcom:spfxted
"If you collect pinball machines...you can afford $150."
Very true, I can afford glass even if it was 1000 a sheet. But my 40 dollar normal sheets work awesome. I don't buy into all the hype. You buy 4 sheets of this fancy glass and you could have just bought a whole machine instead. I'll take a new pin over glass all day long...
I do think the glass looks awesome though...but it's just way to much cash IMO...regardless of how great it is
Sort of true...not 4 sheets at $150 though. Still hard to get a great machine for $600. Hey, I'm just glad we have the choice. I've seen this stuff and it DOES make a big difference on a machine.
Quoted from jackal2001:zippydapinhead said:I have cats and kids. Every sheet of glass I have has scratches. Any sort of coated glass would probably scratch pretty easy too and at 3 bills a pop I just can't see that happening for me any time soon. Besides, I'm way too broke to blow dough like that. Must be a lot of rich pinsiders buying this stuff. Maybe one of em will send me a sheet so I can see what the fuss is about
All anti-glare glass is specially coated and will scratch easier than regular glass. Look at 3M, Schott, etc at their spec sheets and how to clean that glass.
If I didn't have a cat I would buy some too.
I have 2 cats but will get eventually as it does make such a difference. Just hope my cats behave!
Quoted from Shapeshifter:I have 2 cats but will get eventually as it does make such a difference. Just hope my cats behave!
Mod your cats.
Quoted from Shapeshifter:I have 2 cats but will get eventually as it does make such a difference. Just hope my cats behave!
Just keep a nice powerful spray bottle handy.
Quoted from ChadH:You have to admit... there is some humor in the fact that everyone is irate about the logo when it was $300 for a sheet. Pitchforks were out!!!
But everyone was so happy when it was suddenly $300 for two sheets (both with the logo still). They've been falling over themselves trying to get an order in.
Cracks me up! My sheets are sitting on my doorstep waiting for me when I get home....a proud owner of a logo sheet baby...
ChadH: You have to admit... there is some humor in the fact that everyone is irate about the logo when it was $300 for a sheet. Pitchforks were out!!!
But everyone was so happy when it was suddenly $300 for two sheets (both with the logo still). They've been falling over themselves trying to get an order in.
So... was it really about the logo? Or was it about the price? Because in the end... both your sheets are going to have the logo that you were so upset about.
I agree. Personally, I thought the logo was fine and kind of cool and in an innocuous area. But I missed out on all the deals. Oh well.
Latest, last offer!! Good one as well
OK - I was just informed we are out of the Standard JJP Logo version
glass - we have some Widebody JJP Logo glass left. So:
You can still buy a JJP logo widebody and get a standard (non JJP logo
free) while supplies last.
OR:
FOR TODAY ONLY UNTIL MIDNIGHT:
Order either Standard or Widebody size INVISIGLASS™ and you get the
second glass of your size choice for half price plus shipping. So
that's $442.50 - Both of those glasses will NOT have the JJP logo.
That's all folks. Tomorrow the INVISIGLASS™ is back at $295.00 a sheet
plus shipping and no JJP logo.
I figure while we are doing this, let's finish it with the best I
could do for today. Thanks, and thanks for the lesson.
Jack
If someone didn't like the logo, fine. At a 50% discount, they could live with it. Nothing wrong there. lol...I bought eyeglasses because they were on sale. $350 regular price...$149 on sale...not the frames I really wanted....but still damn nice
Hey Terry,
I think it would be fair to say that by the time you read this you will be tired of packing glass!!
David
Quoted from ChadH:You have to admit... there is some humor in the fact that everyone is irate about the logo when it was $300 for a sheet. Pitchforks were out!!!
But everyone was so happy when it was suddenly $300 for two sheets (both with the logo still). They've been falling over themselves trying to get an order in.
So... was it really about the logo? Or was it about the price? Because in the end... both your sheets are going to have the logo that you were so upset about.
Indeed. In my case I don't care for the logo at all so I didn't jump in on the screaming deal. Others decided at half price they could live with it. I don't really see why that would be surprising.
I just want to make sure I understand Jack's latest offer. I can order a widebody and a regular sheet for a total of $450 + shipping, and neither one will have the logo. Is this correct?
Is it going to be possible to order logo glass from Jack in the future? Hope so as I really want that now. In fact if Jack doesn't make that available to I will raise my pitchfork and raise a ruckus! The people demand to have their logo back.
Quoted from gweempose:just want to make sure I understand Jack's latest offer. I can order a widebody and a regular sheet for a total of $450 + shipping, and neither one will have the logo. Is this correct?
Yes. Until midnight is what he said.
Quoted from Shadow:ChadH: You have to admit... there is some humor in the fact that everyone is irate about the logo when it was $300 for a sheet. Pitchforks were out!!!
But everyone was so happy when it was suddenly $300 for two sheets (both with the logo still). They've been falling over themselves trying to get an order in.
So... was it really about the logo? Or was it about the price? Because in the end... both your sheets are going to have the logo that you were so upset about.
I agree. Personally, I thought the logo was fine and kind of cool and in an innocuous area. But I missed out on all the deals. Oh well.
Actually it's false. Both sheets will not have the logo. You will have the logo one you order and then the logo free one that's free after. So you are getting a free logo glass and one without logo at full price. That's worth it.
Quoted from gweempose:I just want to make sure I understand Jack's latest offer. I can order a widebody and a regular sheet for a total of $450 + shipping, and neither one will have the logo. Is this correct?
Gweem, you are correct. I just spoke to Jen and ordered 2 sheets, buy one/get one half off, both with no logos. When you place the order and check out on the pinballsales.com website, it will show the full price without the discount, but Jen said to just put in a comment about the special deal and your card will be charged appropriately when it ships, which will be in about 3-4 weeks.
I am very impressed with Jack's level of commitment to his customers...!
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:Is it going to be possible to order logo glass from Jack in the future? Hope so as I really want that now. In fact if Jack doesn't make that available to I will raise my pitchfork and raise a ruckus! The people demand to have their logo back.
I was talking to Jen and she thinks that they will have smaller logos that are hidden under lockdown bar in the future but she said no decisions yet, but it will get smaller for sure. I was happy about the deal since I actually liked the logo to start with. No different then wearing a T-shirt or having a neon sign on the wall.
Quoted from ChadH:You have to admit... there is some humor in the fact that everyone is irate about the logo when it was $300 for a sheet. Pitchforks were out!!!
But everyone was so happy when it was suddenly $300 for two sheets (both with the logo still). They've been falling over themselves trying to get an order in.
So... was it really about the logo? Or was it about the price? Because in the end... both your sheets are going to have the logo that you were so upset about.
I must be missing the humor in this? Why can't it be about both price *and* the logo? I don't like the logo. The vast majority of people here don't like the logo. Jack apparently agrees that it wasn't a good idea, and has listened to what potential customers are saying, so it won't have the logo when additional batches are made. So he offers an amazing 2 for 1 deal. So why wouldn't the majority of people who don't like the logo be willing to put up with it for half price? No way would I have bought this glass with the logo on it for $300.00. I'd stick with my PDI glass. 2 for 1? Yeah, I'll put up with the logo for that price. Nothing funny about it!
Quoted from absocountry2:jeffspinballpalace said:Is it going to be possible to order logo glass from Jack in the future? Hope so as I really want that now. In fact if Jack doesn't make that available to I will raise my pitchfork and raise a ruckus! The people demand to have their logo back.
I was talking to Jen and she thinks that they will have smaller logos that are hidden under lockdown bar in the future but she said no decisions yet, but it will get smaller for sure. I was happy about the deal since I actually liked the logo to start with. No different then wearing a T-shirt or having a neon sign on the wall.
I wouldn't have any problem at all with a logo on the glass that would be hidden by the lock down bar. That makes a lot of sense.
Quoted from VegasAlleycat:Gweem, you are correct. I just spoke to Jen and ordered 2 sheets, buy one/get one half off, both with no logos. When you place the order and check out on the pinballsales.com website, it will show the full price without the discount, but Jen said to just put in a comment about the special deal and your card will be charged appropriately when it ships, which will be in about 3-4 weeks.
Thanks, VA! I just placed my order. By the way, I got hit with IL sales tax on my order, as well as a $5 S&H fee. I was a little surprised to see this.
Jack has business operations in both IL and NJ. I remember this came up for discussion in the WOZ forum a month or so back when people asked about picking up their machines in IL - would Jack have to charge state tax. At that time, he wasn't sure... but I guess he figured out the answer.
Gonna post it in this thread too....just got my Invisiglass installed in Spidey and Lotr le, and it's amazing.....looks like there is no glass at all and for me it's worth every penny compared to what i had.....
As for the logo, it's the most overblown complained about non-issue I can imagine.....imho, it sits right over the plunger for me and you don't even know it's there....I like it anyhow...
So thanks to those that don't like it and complained, love the 2-1, great job JJP!
Looks like with WOZ and future games we'll actually get some quality control and great customer service
Quoted from iceman44:Gonna post it in this thread too....just got my Invisiglass installed in Spidey and Lotr le, and it's amazing.....
Pics?
iceman it is NOT overblown...your love for JJP is overblown if anything....drink some more koolaid hahaha
That logo sucks, it should have been in the bottom corner at the least, under the lockdown bar. To top it off the JJP logo is ugly IMO.
Quoted from iceman44:So thanks to those that don't like it and complained, love the 2-1, great job JJP!
You're welcome!
Quoted from tomdotcom:To top it off the JJP logo is ugly anyhow haha...
Agreed. Not my cup of tea.
Guys, the logo is in the bottom right corner for me and I'm telling you it's way overblown....you just don't see it or notice it really, very discreet........but whatever floats your boat, I'm a big JJP Kool Aid drinker!!!
The glass is freaking awesome, and I'm sure PDI is too...
I probably should take advantage of the 2 for $450 deal that is going on, but that's still a lot of scratch for a couple pieces of glass...
Quoted from iceman44:Guys, the logo is in the bottom right corner for me and I'm telling you it's way overblown....you just don't see it or notice it really, very discreet........but whatever floats your boat, I'm a big JJP Kool Aid drinker!!!
The glass is freaking awesome, and I'm sure PDI is too...
Dude, we've already seen pics of the logo on Tatman's pin with the logo over the shooter lane. It *is* a fairly big deal to some of us! Apparently Jack felt the complaints were valid enough to....well...you know what he's done!
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